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Clinton Interview
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RE: Clinton Interview
(September 13, 2017 at 4:04 pm)TheBeardedDude Wrote:
(September 13, 2017 at 3:51 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Yeah, it's kinda the subtext of the interview, how she took some things for granted.

I still think the "basket of delorables" comment was her biggest blunder, though.

But was she wrong?

Politically, it didn't work. Speaking the truth rarely does in that arena. But that statement cost her votes, no doubt.

(September 13, 2017 at 4:12 pm)TheBeardedDude Wrote:
(September 13, 2017 at 4:10 pm)Whateverist Wrote: It was wrong campaigning-wise thought true enough otherwise.

It was a bad political move, sure, but my point is that she just said what the rest of us were thinking in that case. Most people say that's what they want out of their politicians, but I guess those same people don't like it if that politician is a woman and/or if it is something said about them.

Or on the other hand, she alienated undecideds who liked Trump for reasons other than his blatant bigotry?

Frontal attacks carry their own risks which must be judged finely. I think she misjudged that moment, myself; rather than practice exclusion, I think her wiser move was continuing with her "I understand the frustrations" trope and offer an open palm rather than a very public backhand.

(September 13, 2017 at 4:34 pm)TheBeardedDude Wrote:
(September 13, 2017 at 4:33 pm)Minimalist Wrote: What was your choice?


That's why YOU are not deplorable and they are!

And she wasn't saying every person who will vote for Trump is in the basket, but they were at least complacent if they supported the Mango Mussolini.

You and I get what she was saying. It was how she said it that made that statement so grating. It seems to me like she was reaching for a soundbite, but instead got bitten soundly by it. No matter whether she was on-target or not, she misjudged the feelings such a phrase would arouse.

You're right that Comey's letter was interference. I think she might have overcome that had she not already alienated so many possible voters.

(September 13, 2017 at 7:30 pm)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: [...] but the fact is she lost that election because she became so convinced she had won it already that she thought it didn't matter what she did in the process.

I think this complacency is what did her in.

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Clinton Interview - by Thumpalumpacus - September 12, 2017 at 8:05 am
RE: Clinton Interview - by dyresand - September 13, 2017 at 11:33 am
RE: Clinton Interview - by Minimalist - September 13, 2017 at 12:24 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Redbeard The Pink - September 13, 2017 at 7:30 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Whateverist - September 13, 2017 at 1:18 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Minimalist - September 13, 2017 at 1:20 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Tiberius - September 13, 2017 at 1:49 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Iroscato - September 13, 2017 at 3:44 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Minimalist - September 13, 2017 at 2:06 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by vorlon13 - September 13, 2017 at 3:21 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Tiberius - September 13, 2017 at 3:49 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Minimalist - September 13, 2017 at 4:20 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Thumpalumpacus - September 13, 2017 at 3:51 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by TheBeardedDude - September 13, 2017 at 4:04 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Whateverist - September 13, 2017 at 4:10 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by TheBeardedDude - September 13, 2017 at 4:12 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Whateverist - September 13, 2017 at 4:27 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by TheBeardedDude - September 13, 2017 at 4:31 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Whateverist - September 13, 2017 at 4:42 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by vorlon13 - September 13, 2017 at 4:52 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Thumpalumpacus - September 13, 2017 at 7:33 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by vorlon13 - September 13, 2017 at 4:23 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by TheBeardedDude - September 13, 2017 at 4:24 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Minimalist - September 13, 2017 at 4:33 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by TheBeardedDude - September 13, 2017 at 4:34 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by vorlon13 - September 13, 2017 at 4:57 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by vorlon13 - September 13, 2017 at 4:31 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Whateverist - September 13, 2017 at 4:57 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Clueless Morgan - September 13, 2017 at 7:17 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Tiberius - September 14, 2017 at 2:00 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Minimalist - September 14, 2017 at 2:43 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Tiberius - September 14, 2017 at 10:28 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Thumpalumpacus - September 14, 2017 at 6:26 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Europa! - September 14, 2017 at 6:29 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Thumpalumpacus - September 14, 2017 at 8:32 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Puke Skywalker - September 14, 2017 at 10:58 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by AFTT47 - September 15, 2017 at 1:33 am
RE: Clinton Interview - by chimp3 - September 15, 2017 at 5:07 am
RE: Clinton Interview - by Whateverist - September 15, 2017 at 7:49 am
RE: Clinton Interview - by The Grand Nudger - September 15, 2017 at 8:02 am
RE: Clinton Interview - by Clueless Morgan - September 15, 2017 at 10:27 am
RE: Clinton Interview - by Europa! - September 15, 2017 at 9:51 am
RE: Clinton Interview - by Fireball - September 15, 2017 at 9:58 am
RE: Clinton Interview - by Divinity - September 15, 2017 at 12:18 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by The Grand Nudger - September 15, 2017 at 12:34 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Clueless Morgan - September 15, 2017 at 2:55 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by vorlon13 - September 15, 2017 at 7:35 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Clueless Morgan - September 15, 2017 at 8:18 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Whateverist - September 15, 2017 at 8:59 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Fireball - September 15, 2017 at 8:50 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by vorlon13 - September 15, 2017 at 9:25 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by The Grand Nudger - September 16, 2017 at 12:35 am

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