Vaccination exemption in CA, personal down, medical up

[bennyboy]

So then *every* time a child dies due to something that *could* have been prevented we should hold the parents criminally culpable? No, not every time. Sometimes yes. But sometimes no, such as the case with the alligator in Orlando. We both agree that it shouldn't be *every* time. We just don't agree on where to draw the line.

The line is pretty unambiguous: it's a matter of context and intent.

If a person doesn't know there are crocodiles in a body of water, and there's no sign saying so, there's clearly no neglect, even though the child has been allowed to swim near crocodiles.

If there are crocodile warnings, but someone has heard from a few people that crocodiles don't attack small children, then in letting the kid in the body of water, he's especially stupid but not exactly negligent, since he has no intent of ignoring possible harm to the child.

If a park ranger TELLS the person about the dangers of crocodiles, gives links to statistics about child deaths, shows video of a goddamned crocodile attacking a child, and the person still decided to side with Bubba and Bessie's opinion (that crocodiles don't attack small children), then he is taking willful action against the state and must be made to act properly, or prevented from acting at all.

Here's where the analogy ends.  To really parallel the stupidity of anti-vaxxers, you'd have to have a random chance that the kid is going to go to school with a 15-foot croc without anybody noticing, and force all the other kids to touch it. There's another problem, too: some diseases are probably far more likely to kill a kid than a crocodile, EVEN IF the kid were to go swim with it.
 
So yeah.  No vax = crime, IMO, and a particularly irresponsible one.  I'd maybe throw out the word "traitor" given how deliberate and harmful to other citizens such an action would be.