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The Cake Case Revisited
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RE: The Cake Case Revisited
(October 4, 2017 at 3:54 am)Alex K Wrote:
(October 3, 2017 at 6:26 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I agree with Bob. I think we can all say that if we owned a cake bakery and someone walked in wanting a cake that said "White Power" with a swastika on it for a white supremacist Nazi gathering, we should be allowed to refuse to make it. Same goes for if someone wants to refuse to make a cake that says "Happy Wedding Day Ralph and Steve". A company owner should always be allowed to turn down a particular task (not people) if it goes against their moral, political, or religious convictions.

I'm not sure. But apart from the legal issue, don't you find yourself sounding a bit absurd with your above examples? Or were you going for satire and I missed it?

I don't see why my example is absurd. The point is a business owner should be allowed to say no to any particular service that goes against their morals. The law can't really say "well, you're allowed to say no for this scenario, but not for this other one." You're either allowed to say no, or you aren't. If you're not legally allowed to say no to making a cake for a gay wedding, you're not going to be legally allowed to say no to any other occassion either.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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The Cake Case Revisited - by Silver - October 3, 2017 at 6:09 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Bob Kelso - October 3, 2017 at 6:16 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by downbeatplumb - October 4, 2017 at 2:47 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Pat Mustard - October 4, 2017 at 6:33 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Bob Kelso - October 4, 2017 at 7:13 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Edwardo Piet - October 6, 2017 at 11:00 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by chimp3 - October 3, 2017 at 6:23 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Mister Agenda - October 5, 2017 at 2:30 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Catholic_Lady - October 3, 2017 at 6:26 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Minimalist - October 3, 2017 at 8:46 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Alex K - October 4, 2017 at 3:54 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Catholic_Lady - October 4, 2017 at 4:02 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by downbeatplumb - October 4, 2017 at 11:42 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by vorlon13 - October 3, 2017 at 6:57 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by vorlon13 - October 3, 2017 at 7:07 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Rev. Rye - October 3, 2017 at 8:30 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Silver - October 3, 2017 at 8:32 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Rev. Rye - October 3, 2017 at 8:36 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Seraphina - October 3, 2017 at 10:35 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Rev. Rye - October 3, 2017 at 11:10 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Rev. Rye - October 3, 2017 at 9:17 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Minimalist - October 3, 2017 at 9:21 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Catholic_Lady - October 3, 2017 at 9:58 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by vorlon13 - October 3, 2017 at 10:44 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by The Grand Nudger - October 3, 2017 at 11:19 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Amarok - October 3, 2017 at 11:51 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Minimalist - October 3, 2017 at 11:56 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Rev. Rye - October 4, 2017 at 12:02 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Minimalist - October 4, 2017 at 12:07 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Rev. Rye - October 4, 2017 at 12:12 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Minimalist - October 4, 2017 at 12:25 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by ignoramus - October 4, 2017 at 3:24 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by vorlon13 - October 4, 2017 at 2:19 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Pat Mustard - October 5, 2017 at 2:53 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Ravenshire - October 4, 2017 at 3:30 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Catholic_Lady - October 4, 2017 at 4:09 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Mr.wizard - October 4, 2017 at 7:17 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Catholic_Lady - October 4, 2017 at 9:04 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Mr.wizard - October 4, 2017 at 10:10 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by RoadRunner79 - October 5, 2017 at 6:20 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Ravenshire - October 4, 2017 at 11:03 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Catholic_Lady - October 4, 2017 at 11:44 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Aroura - October 5, 2017 at 2:23 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Catholic_Lady - October 5, 2017 at 9:23 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Aroura - October 5, 2017 at 10:21 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Catholic_Lady - October 5, 2017 at 10:29 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Ravenshire - October 5, 2017 at 1:47 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by ignoramus - October 4, 2017 at 4:08 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by The Grand Nudger - October 4, 2017 at 7:42 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Catholic_Lady - October 4, 2017 at 12:09 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Minimalist - October 4, 2017 at 12:31 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by The Grand Nudger - October 4, 2017 at 12:36 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by vorlon13 - October 4, 2017 at 2:16 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Minimalist - October 4, 2017 at 9:09 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Catholic_Lady - October 4, 2017 at 9:15 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Minimalist - October 4, 2017 at 9:20 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by The Grand Nudger - October 4, 2017 at 10:05 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by The Grand Nudger - October 4, 2017 at 10:28 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by vorlon13 - October 4, 2017 at 10:28 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by The Grand Nudger - October 4, 2017 at 10:31 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by The Grand Nudger - October 4, 2017 at 11:16 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by vorlon13 - October 5, 2017 at 12:38 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Aroura - October 5, 2017 at 9:58 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by RoadRunner79 - October 6, 2017 at 11:44 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Catholic_Lady - October 5, 2017 at 10:19 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Aroura - October 5, 2017 at 3:54 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Drich - October 5, 2017 at 4:28 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by The Grand Nudger - October 5, 2017 at 5:20 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Whateverist - October 6, 2017 at 11:30 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Divinity - October 6, 2017 at 9:31 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by vorlon13 - October 6, 2017 at 9:43 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Catholic_Lady - October 6, 2017 at 9:51 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Divinity - October 6, 2017 at 10:04 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Catholic_Lady - October 6, 2017 at 11:09 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Divinity - October 6, 2017 at 11:31 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Neo-Scholastic - October 6, 2017 at 12:43 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Aegon - October 6, 2017 at 1:31 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Crossless2.0 - October 6, 2017 at 1:33 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Aroura - October 6, 2017 at 4:26 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Catholic_Lady - October 6, 2017 at 1:16 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Divinity - October 6, 2017 at 1:41 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by vorlon13 - October 6, 2017 at 1:57 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by RoadRunner79 - October 6, 2017 at 2:05 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Catholic_Lady - October 6, 2017 at 2:09 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by dyresand - October 6, 2017 at 3:15 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Joods - October 6, 2017 at 11:32 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Divinity - October 6, 2017 at 11:36 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Ravenshire - October 6, 2017 at 12:08 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Joods - October 6, 2017 at 1:43 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Ravenshire - October 6, 2017 at 4:52 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Mr.wizard - October 6, 2017 at 6:04 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Joods - October 6, 2017 at 11:37 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Pat Mustard - October 6, 2017 at 5:05 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Divinity - October 6, 2017 at 11:49 am
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by The Grand Nudger - October 6, 2017 at 1:02 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Divinity - October 6, 2017 at 1:04 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by dyresand - October 6, 2017 at 1:25 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Neo-Scholastic - October 6, 2017 at 2:04 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Divinity - October 6, 2017 at 2:28 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Neo-Scholastic - October 6, 2017 at 2:43 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by vorlon13 - October 6, 2017 at 4:15 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Catholic_Lady - October 6, 2017 at 2:56 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Amarok - October 6, 2017 at 1:08 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by vorlon13 - October 6, 2017 at 2:11 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Catholic_Lady - October 6, 2017 at 2:18 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by vorlon13 - October 6, 2017 at 2:20 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Divinity - October 6, 2017 at 2:51 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by vorlon13 - October 6, 2017 at 4:16 pm
RE: The Cake Case Revisited - by Cecelia - October 6, 2017 at 10:01 pm

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