The Cake Case Revisited

[Aroura]

Unless you're defining gay marriage as something other than marriage, your point is pure bullshit. If these bigoted bozos don't want to bake cakes for gay weddings, they can always opt-out of baking wedding cakes. No (open, repulsive) bigotry in refusing the gay wedding then. This seems to be the point you're missing. They are refusing to bake a wedding cake because the couple is gay. They're not refusing to bake wedding cakes. They're refusing to bake gay wedding cakes. It's the very definition of bigotry.

So, I'll ask again, how would you feel if you were refused a service granted to everyone else, based solely on your religion? If you walked into a restaurant wearing a crucifix and the waiter told you "We don't serve cathy-licks," are you going to tell me that's somehow different?!?

Well, if a person doesn't think gay marriage is moral and they don't want to make a cake for a cause they disagree with, I think they have the right to say no.

And I already answered your question. If someone refused me a cake that was unrelated to my Catholicism simply bc I was catholic, I would think that was illegal discrimination of servicing me because of who I am. If someone refused to make a cake for me that was for a pro life rally or for a catholic baptism because they were morally/politically/religiously opposed to those causes, i would think it was within their rights to do so.

What if a baker is against interracial marriage claiming it was immoral, is it ok to turn down a black/white couple then?  Is it more OK if it's because of a religious belief? Would you still say it is their right to do so?

Many people in the 60's used these exact arguments, you do realize, to try and legitimize segregation.

What is the difference between an interracial marriage and a gay one?  Both are marriages, both are legal.