RE: Two scenarios that may/may not happen.
October 13, 2017 at 11:12 am
(This post was last modified: October 13, 2017 at 11:16 am by Harry Nevis.)
(October 13, 2017 at 12:04 am)RayOfLight Wrote:(October 12, 2017 at 10:47 am)Minimalist Wrote: 1. If evolution were suddenly proven false that would still not provide one scintilla of evidence that the bible bullshit story is "true."
2. Please don't give me the "all historians agree" horseshit. They do not. And when you ask what evidence is used to base their conclusion what you end up with is a regurgitation of the same old gospel shit which no real historian would ever consider historical evidence.
Please don't tell me what I can and can't write here, okay? good! Now, I didn't say "all historians agree", what I said was " a good number of historians" that's different. And the Gospels are indeed historical materials; you don't have to be a Christian to accept that. Now are all the things written in them as true, some yes and some no, but you don't dismiss entire books just because you happen to not agree with what they say. History is full of documents that are not 100% accurate. Nevertheless, they're used by historians.
But historians know the difference between corroborated historical fact and blather about the supernatural.
(October 13, 2017 at 12:40 am)RayOfLight Wrote:(October 13, 2017 at 12:34 am)Khemikal Wrote: You made claim to facts that support your religion. I'd like to see at least one of them.
That (Historical Jesus) existed that someone called Paul existed, that he wrote several of the epistles (not all), the earliest of them was in the 50s of the first century. That there were early Christians in Jerusalem that claimed their leader was the Messiah, and that he rose from the dead. Now did he rise? That's something the historians are in dispute about.
The "Jesus, Paul, and disciples never existed" is just something that is popular by folks that are into either conspiracy theory or would rather take the easy way out.
Facts? Historians don't debate how jesus rose from the dead. He didn't. They do debate his existence.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing." - Samuel Porter Putnam