(November 7, 2017 at 12:22 pm)SteveII Wrote: Your knowledge of Christianity has huge holes in it. How about take the time to learn something about the very thing you started a thread over to point out concerning what you perceived to be the logical problems with it. It is clear from this article that God's purpose is NOT suffering and goes into some detail about what it really is.
Regarding your last statement, it is not compatible with free will. In addition, it is God's wish that none go to hell:
"For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth" (1 Tim. 2:3-4).
"The Lord is not slow to fulfill His promise as some understand slowness, but is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance (2 Peter 3:9)
Yes, yes we don't understand, we hear you. though I'm not so sure the holes are as big as you think they are, not believing a book that has talking snakes, people who's strength comes from long hair, talking donkeys and people walking on water is not the same as not knowing what is in there.
It's true I don't understand Christianity, at least not any more i used to think i did and it's the same accusation i would throw unbelievers way, but once you see it for the sham it is and you begin clearly to see its just made up and really there is absolutely no evidence for it's claims then yes, you loose that understanding because you can no longer have the will or yearning to continually go through the excruciating mental gymnastics to reconcile it with reality.
How can it be god's will that not all perish and come to knowledge of truth, but at the same time knowingly create a world where his will cannot come into being. Not only that but knowingly and wilfully created a world where children get abused, murders, etc, put simply Yahweh is incapable of putting his will into action. If you were some kind of Universe supervisor looking for a local god to create a world of where humans could live in happiness, and you saw Yahweh's C.V, would you employ him?
Given that god could not get wants without creating a world with what you call free will and a sinful world at the same time, we are not talking about someone who happen to come across circumstances beyond their control, but a god who can control everything.
This is what religion (of which Christianity is one of many) does to peoples heads, they accept a logic no rational person would on this subject, further to that they call it love.
And almost all the rational around this rests on what you call free will, what is 'free will' to you, and why are you so convinced we actually have it ?
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'
