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Why did god allow people to be born after the fall ?
RE: Why did god allow people to be born after the fall ?
(November 17, 2017 at 8:21 am)Harry Nevis Wrote:
(November 16, 2017 at 5:44 pm)SteveII Wrote: You are making a category error (among other errors). Jesus was not a man so a comparison is silly. God himself came down to bridge the gap between his holiness and our sin. He is the only one that could have done that. We cannot even pay with our lives to make that happen (a debt is an incomplete metaphor). Accepting his offer in no way infers a lack of character, because paying your own way was never an option.

So we're born, through no fault of our own, with the burden of a debt we can't possibly repay.  But the person that saddled us with this debt has a way out.  Buying the cure from the poisoner.


(November 16, 2017 at 7:29 pm)SteveII Wrote: I believe the author of goodness "...so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him won’t perish but will have eternal life." Forgive me if I believe him and not an some random atheist on the internet with a warped understanding of the atonement.

LOL.  So it's US that has a warped sense of atonement.  Is there a dictionary that defines atonement as having someone else die to pay for a debt you never incurred?

That "author of goodness" crap almost had me snorting my coffee.

(November 17, 2017 at 7:09 am)SteveII Wrote: Setting aside death by crucifixion, what was it like for an omniscient mind to physically bear all the sins of mankind past, present, and future all at the same time? When you think about it, God willing endured something unimaginable to us that would change him (by having the experience) in a less than positive way.

Something changed a perfect being in a lees than positive way? He created the sin, and could choose any other way to wipe it out.  Can't you see what a infantile story this is?


Now notice how you could have phrased all those comments as questions or in a discussion format. Instead all your comments are peanut-gallery, comprehension-deficient, condescending nonsense that somehow meets a need in your head. Thanks for the example of why I choose to unclutter my feed with your contributions.
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RE: Why did god allow people to be born after the fall ? - by SteveII - November 17, 2017 at 10:00 am

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