RE: Australia: Martyr complex among "no" voters
November 20, 2017 at 6:24 pm
(This post was last modified: November 20, 2017 at 6:29 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(November 20, 2017 at 4:42 pm)Grandizer Wrote:(November 20, 2017 at 12:29 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I guess if someone thinks proponents of traditional marriage are by definition bigots there isn't much room for discussion, is there? Shall we talk about those pro-abortion baby-killers now?
You can be a proponent of traditional marriage without forcing others to subscribe to your views and thereby deprive them of their rights. It's when you want others to be deprived of the rights you have, that's where the problem lies. Note that there were proponents of traditional marriage who still voted yes, simply because it's the right and respectful thing to do.
And as for abortion, be my guest. But women only get to have a say what they do with their own bodies, no one else.
Nah, they're by definition bigots whether they enforce it or not. A racist who keeps their racism to themselves is still a racist too.
Obviously it's far worse and far more immoral for them to enforce it. But bigoted is bigoted. I'm not suggesting they are an entirely bigoted person, at all, but the belief that an entire group of people doesn't deserve equal rights is certainly bigoted. How the hell can Neo think it's remotely reasonable to think that denying an entire sexuality equal rights is not by definition bigoted? Of course that's fucking bigoted by definition. Sure, fair enough, being pro-Christianity is more important to him than being anti-bigotry, but to say his Christian belief is not bigoted when his belief is that an entire sexuality should be denied equal rights, is just him flat out denying reality and ignoring what basic words mean.
Pro-abortion baby killers is a false analogy because aborting a fetus is not killing a baby. However denying an entire sexuality of equal rights is denying an entire sexuality of equal rights. One is true by definition the other isn't. How about you actually make a an analogy that isn't false for once, Neo?
(November 20, 2017 at 12:29 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I guess if someone thinks proponents of traditional marriage are by definition bigots there isn't much room for discussion, is there? Shall we talk about those pro-abortion baby-killers now?
The former is true by definition, the latter isn't. Time to learn logic Neo.
Actually, no, don't bother, you've demonstrated many, many times you're not capable of learning it.