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So about the Voice to Parliament (Australia)
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So about the Voice to Parliament (Australia)
For context: https://voice.gov.au/

Basically, there is a proposal to get the Voice (representing the needs of indigenous communities in Australia) enshrined into Australia's Constitution. And because this means a change to the Constitution itself, a referendum from the Australian population will be required. If the majority of Australian vote yes to this proposal, and the majority of states vote yes, then it's a pass. Unfortunately for the Yes side, and with voting day coming very soon, polls show that it's doomed to fail.

That said, I'm going to be voting "Yes", albeit after quite a long time of thinking this through. I certainly don't believe the Voice is going to cause division (if anything, the division is already there anyway), and I do believe the First Peoples of Australia are entitled to some form of genuine recognition that won't just suddenly be dismissed the minute the government decides they could care less about that (which history has shown to have happened a few times before). And it's just an advisory board, nothing more. But I feel the Yes campaign has been terrible at effectively delivering the message to the Australian people and answering whatever concerns they may have. Yes, some people have strong prejudices against what is being perceived as granting special status to Indigenous people and have already made up their minds that they'll be voting "No" (not to mention falling prey easily to misinformation and fearmongering tactics from the No campaign), but there are plenty of those who are just confused about the whole thing and don't know what they're voting on exactly.

The booklets that were mailed to all voters a while ago, presenting both sides of the argument, certainly didn't help, with the No side clearly presenting a more [superficially] compelling case in the booklet than the Yes side. I had to watch a lot of videos and read a lot of stuff to finally be convinced that, yes, this is at least a fair way to go.

Who here is an Australian, and what will your vote be? To the rest, feel free to share thoughts or questions. Maybe I might be able to address some of them.
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RE: So about the Voice to Parliament (Australia)
Dunno
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
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RE: So about the Voice to Parliament (Australia)
I’m in favour of anything, anytime, anywhere that addresses the concerns of indigenous people.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: So about the Voice to Parliament (Australia)
I grew up learning that the original inhabitants of Australia were criminals placed there by England. A place that was their prison.
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RE: So about the Voice to Parliament (Australia)
(October 7, 2023 at 4:02 pm)Foxaèr Wrote: I grew up learning that the original inhabitants of Australia were criminals placed there by England. A place that was their prison.

The original inhabitant of Australia were indigenous people who were there 50 000 years before the first Europeans showed up.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: So about the Voice to Parliament (Australia)
(October 7, 2023 at 4:02 pm)Foxaèr Wrote: I grew up learning that the original inhabitants of Australia were criminals placed there by England. A place that was their prison.

Wait, is this sarcasm? Big Grin
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RE: So about the Voice to Parliament (Australia)
(October 7, 2023 at 4:04 pm)GrandizerII Wrote:
(October 7, 2023 at 4:02 pm)Foxaèr Wrote: I grew up learning that the original inhabitants of Australia were criminals placed there by England. A place that was their prison.

Wait, is this sarcasm? Big Grin

No.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
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RE: So about the Voice to Parliament (Australia)
Foxaèr Wrote:
(October 7, 2023 at 4:04 pm)GrandizerII Wrote: Wait, is this sarcasm? Big Grin

No.

Well, like Boru said, the original inhabitants were in Australia long before the first Europeans arrived here. But yes, European convicts were transported here around a couple hundred years ago. And they were perhaps the first European inhabitants of Australia.
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