Catholics warring against the Pope?

[KiwiNFLFan]

The splinter group mentioned in the article is the Society of St Pius X, with whom I have been involved. I used to attend their chapel when I lived in Wellington. They practice and teach the Catholic faith the way it was (at least in some places) before Vatican II in the 1960s. They celebrate only the Traditional Latin Mass and their priests still wear cassocks.  They are not sedevacantists, but are very critical of the current pope and hierarchy, sometimes using the term "Conciliar Church" to describe them. They will tell you not to go to the New Mass and are opposed to television.

wow KiwiNFLFan that is actually very interesting. I heard very little about Vatican 1 Catholics, mostly in Joe Eszterhas' ebook "Heaven and Mel" in which he recounts a year he spent with Mel Gibson. So Gibsons are also V1 family and they see Vatican as being infiltrated by communist Jews. Like before the mass on Sunday Mel's dad was explaining Eszterhas how Cardinal Ottaviani sat on Pope John Paul I's face and suffocated him so they could get the Pope they wanted, John Paul II. And indeed Vatican 2 did bring in 1964 document Nostra Aetate that toned down hate toward Jews, which pissed off many Catholics. So did you also have encounters with anti Semitic talks in your Vatican 1 church?

I did encounter a SSPX priest who said that the gas chambers in the concentration camps were used for sterilizing instruments. I think he may have also said that less than 6 million Jews were killed in the Holocaust. Bishop Richard Williamson, one of the four bishops (illicitly) consecrated by SSPX founder Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, came under fire for holding very similar views. He was eventually kicked out of the SSPX, but not for holding such views.

"Vatican 1 Catholics" (who call themselves "traditional Catholics") do believe that the Jews need to convert to Catholicism to be saved, which is in contrast to the current view, put forward in a document released by the Vatican in 2015. The Tridentine Mass (old Latin Mass) contains a prayer for the conversion of the Jews to the Catholic faith. Prior to 1955, the word perfidis ("faithless") was used to describe the Jews. When Pope Benedict XVI gave priests universal permission to say the Tridentine Mass in 2008, there were complaints from Jewish groups about this prayer, which led the Pope to issue a revised version which, while still calling for the conversion of the Jews, toned down the negative language a bit.