(December 2, 2017 at 9:01 pm)Grandizer Wrote:(December 2, 2017 at 1:05 am)Starhunter Wrote: That's alright, I'll remain silent.
You're free to keep posting. If I see anything in your post worth responding to, I will still respond.
(December 2, 2017 at 6:15 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Well clearly I haven't always been here. So which part of the cosmos do you believe has always been here?
Under eternalism, actually, you have. If eternalism is true, every time-instance of you is eternal because every moment in time is eternal. But that said, you have no obligation to adhere to the exact same position I do. A lot of it is speculation, after all, but the key point here is that there is logical validity to it (AFAIK), and that there are certain versions of God that just aren't logically possible.
(December 1, 2017 at 11:27 pm)Khemikal Wrote: If there were a god, "cosmos" would include that as well. Dryly, it already does...just not as believers imagine it to.
That's true. I only separate God from the Cosmos for the sake of going along with the typical theist's notion of a God that is separate from everything else in existence, and to show how logically problematic it is to separate God from time and space and all that.
(December 1, 2017 at 11:27 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Apologies CL; I see you and Grand are already into this, lol.
No, by all means, continue to have an exchange with CL, if you want. Better you than me, lol.
Grand, I don't understand your response to me. My existence began in 1986 when my dad's sperm and my mom's egg came together and formed my DNA, which prior to that moment, did not exist. That, we do have proof of.
What do you mean by eternalism?
I don't understand you saying that I have always existed. It makes no logical sense to me.
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