RE: Proof that God exists
January 7, 2018 at 9:31 am
(This post was last modified: January 7, 2018 at 9:45 am by The Grand Nudger.)
aaaaaand, heres another fun q, which might make sense to focus on since you've mentioned it twice.
You don't understand how consciousness could have evolved. You also indicate that your "theist lean" is in some palpable sense due to questions like these. Is that correct? If so, why have you defaulted to gods over a question of biology? Is "god" more than a moniker for unanswered questions?
Here are some other options, assuming that evolutionary biology cannot and never will account for consciousness, in fact that no natural process ever will:
Consciousness does not exist as we perceive it. (The hypothesis that we are chasing a phantom)
There are non-natural processes. (The hypothesis that there are phantoms to be found)
The universe is fundamentally absurd and inexplicable.
I suspect that an exhaustive investigation of the first two, at least, would be more useful than a swift declaration of "therefore gods, maybe". In fact I'd categorize "gods" as representatives of the absurd and inexplicable universe camp, myself. A universe in which the silly stories we tell somehow find a way to make themselves retroactively true and effective, no-how. The third hypothesis would be eequal parts entertaining and infuriating. Maybe the sky is blue because tulips. Sure, sure, we have a more mundane explanation..but if fairy tales can go back and create the universe (or whatever a person tells themselves about gods).....just how certain can we be that it isn't tulips what make the sky blue, again?
That's the territory where all we can do is throw up our hands and laugh.
You don't understand how consciousness could have evolved. You also indicate that your "theist lean" is in some palpable sense due to questions like these. Is that correct? If so, why have you defaulted to gods over a question of biology? Is "god" more than a moniker for unanswered questions?
Here are some other options, assuming that evolutionary biology cannot and never will account for consciousness, in fact that no natural process ever will:
Consciousness does not exist as we perceive it. (The hypothesis that we are chasing a phantom)
There are non-natural processes. (The hypothesis that there are phantoms to be found)
The universe is fundamentally absurd and inexplicable.
I suspect that an exhaustive investigation of the first two, at least, would be more useful than a swift declaration of "therefore gods, maybe". In fact I'd categorize "gods" as representatives of the absurd and inexplicable universe camp, myself. A universe in which the silly stories we tell somehow find a way to make themselves retroactively true and effective, no-how. The third hypothesis would be eequal parts entertaining and infuriating. Maybe the sky is blue because tulips. Sure, sure, we have a more mundane explanation..but if fairy tales can go back and create the universe (or whatever a person tells themselves about gods).....just how certain can we be that it isn't tulips what make the sky blue, again?
That's the territory where all we can do is throw up our hands and laugh.
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