RE: Proof that God exists
January 14, 2018 at 1:46 pm
(This post was last modified: January 14, 2018 at 1:48 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 14, 2018 at 12:00 pm)Conspiracy_of_reason Wrote: If one believes in religion then that is one's reality.We generally find it useful to separate unique internal realities from the common reality. No one doubts that religion is real to the religious. That doesn't change the troubling detail of how the devil doesn't come when he's called. It's an interesting way to talk around a point of contention but it relies on a fundamental equivocation.
Quote:Science can tell us what happened in the past, it can make very acurate and detailed observations of history which we then use to predict the future, but it provides no proof of future events. That is to say we can guess that gravity will work tomorrow because it has done every day since observations began, but that doesn't mean it will be the same tomorrow and any belief that it will be the same is pure faith. It doesn't matter how small the margin of error is, it is still there and to deny the existance of this margin of error is an emotional, human reaction not a 'calculated acceptance'.Sure, maybe the sun won't rise tomorrow morning. Science isn't in the proof business...it's in the evidence business. It doesn't offer any proof that the sun will rise tomorrow......it just offers a crushing mound of evidence that it will.
Quote:Anyone who claims to have a scientific analytical mind cannot invoke the concept of 'progress' without brteaying that idea instantly. Progress against what? What is the empirical scientific measure of progress? There isn't one, its an emotional human concept (it's Victorian in origin, fashioned out of cast-off Christian concepts) that has no place in modern science.Lots of words derived their first use in the victorian era. They had very colorful slang as well. Nevertheless, you can refer to whatever specific standards a person is referring to when they refer to progress. If we, for example..refer to progress in the context of increased life expectancy and food security then this presents a concrete metric for human progress, or for scientific progress. This may not be what a victorian person would have seen as progress...but so what?
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