God does not determine right and wrong

[Chad32]

And yet he has commanded both of those things from time to time in the bible. And he's still considered morally good.

Oh really, all you need to do now is show the evidence from the Bible, without your slant on it.

Yeah, when he commands soldiers to go into villages of other nations, and kill everyone who isn't a young girl. Then take the young girls home and rape them. Of course, these wouldn't be considered murder and rape back then, but to a modern audience it would be. But I guess that's my enlightened slant, huh?

What is this god's nature supposed to even be, exactly? And how would you tell it's not only good, but it has to be good by definition? Because taken at face value, there are a large number of events in the bible that most people would see as evil. At least those with a skeptical slant.

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Ignoring the OT is a bit dishonest, though. Yeah, I prefer the nicer christians too, but you can't say that Jesus and Yahweh are the exact same person, and then say the OT should be ignored.

It's not about "ignoring the OT." It's about recognizing that it was written thousands and thousands of years ago, for the people of the time, in the context of those times. It's also about recognizing it's allegorical style of writing. Jesus actually existed and cleared up things that were otherwise misunderstood. Why do you think He was so controversial among the Jews of the time? This has been explained many times.

Because we don't buy the line that the worst parts must just be allegory, but the good parts were totally true and historical. It doesn't really matter what that god did when he sent himself down to sacrifice himself to himself. It didn't clear things up. It just made things more confusing. It put a nice coat of paint on a turd.