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God does not determine right and wrong
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RE: God does not determine right and wrong
(January 29, 2018 at 7:44 am)Banned Wrote:
(January 28, 2018 at 10:56 am)Chad32 Wrote: That seems to only count when someone claims he's bad. Never when people claim he's good, which is an equally serious judgment. I can look at his actions and say he's bad. People who say he's good usually have to reinterpret what's plainly said in the book, or claim it's allegory, or some other excuse.


Then he's not all powerful, is he? There are limits to what he's capable of. I know there are limits to what we're capable of, and if he can't do better than that, then he isn't worth worshiping as some higher being.

Why should an all powerful God who is loving, get a kick out of making you a robot?

You are entitled to make whatever judgments about God.
But how would you like me misrepresent you without further knowledge of who you are?
Let's say someone is considered to be a criminal in prison, a corrupt court could have placed them there with all the evidence against them, and no one, not even their own family believes they are innocent.

Innocent until proven guilty applies to God.

He's not loving. Hence why he wants you to obey every word he says, and claims you're worthy of being completely abandoned or set on fire for eternity when you don't.

All the information we have about this god comes from the bible. Everything else has to be taken on faith. So there isn't really further knowledge we can take. If it paints him in a bad way, then he has failed. He even admits his plan isn't going to work very well when he says the road to hell is broad, and the road to heaven is narrow, instead of being the other way around.

Why should it apply to god, when he doesn't apply it to us? Humans go to hell by default. We're expected to seek him out, and get "saved" from the punishment he intends for us if we don't. Innocent until proven guilty is our idea, because we've grown past this bible god.

(January 29, 2018 at 9:24 am)Industrial Lad Wrote:
(January 27, 2018 at 11:43 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Societal reform, so that children don't grow up like their parents, is beyond the wisdom of Yahweh. Just killing the lot of them is easier.

It's not like Yaweh is an expert on everything, including psychology, or anything.

He can count the hairs on your head, but seems to think you're capable of controlling your thoughts when it's proven you can't. Thou shalt not covet is meaningless.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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God does not determine right and wrong - by Alexmahone - January 26, 2018 at 11:25 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Catholic_Lady - January 26, 2018 at 11:27 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by vorlon13 - January 27, 2018 at 9:03 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 27, 2018 at 11:04 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 27, 2018 at 6:59 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 27, 2018 at 7:07 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 27, 2018 at 7:52 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 27, 2018 at 8:48 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by bennyboy - January 27, 2018 at 9:24 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Brian37 - January 29, 2018 at 7:35 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 27, 2018 at 1:22 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Minimalist - January 27, 2018 at 1:52 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 27, 2018 at 3:34 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Minimalist - January 27, 2018 at 11:03 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 27, 2018 at 7:34 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Nay_Sayer - January 27, 2018 at 7:46 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 27, 2018 at 8:14 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Nay_Sayer - January 27, 2018 at 9:26 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by brewer - January 27, 2018 at 10:56 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by vorlon13 - January 27, 2018 at 8:52 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Grandizer - January 27, 2018 at 2:02 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by polymath257 - January 27, 2018 at 10:28 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by LadyForCamus - January 27, 2018 at 10:32 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 27, 2018 at 5:48 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by LadyForCamus - January 27, 2018 at 10:10 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by shadow - January 29, 2018 at 12:10 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 1, 2018 at 7:23 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by shadow - February 1, 2018 at 7:37 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - February 1, 2018 at 11:46 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by polymath257 - January 27, 2018 at 11:05 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Grandizer - February 8, 2018 at 10:35 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Grandizer - February 9, 2018 at 12:54 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by polymath257 - February 8, 2018 at 11:48 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by LadyForCamus - January 27, 2018 at 11:09 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 27, 2018 at 6:54 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by vorlon13 - January 27, 2018 at 8:04 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by SteveII - January 27, 2018 at 12:53 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Whateverist - January 27, 2018 at 7:05 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by brewer - January 27, 2018 at 8:10 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 27, 2018 at 9:01 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 28, 2018 at 2:31 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Nay_Sayer - January 28, 2018 at 3:31 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by LadyForCamus - January 28, 2018 at 9:30 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 29, 2018 at 7:30 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by LadyForCamus - January 29, 2018 at 9:24 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 1, 2018 at 7:38 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by shadow - February 1, 2018 at 7:43 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 1, 2018 at 7:52 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by shadow - February 1, 2018 at 11:53 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Grandizer - February 1, 2018 at 7:45 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by LadyForCamus - February 1, 2018 at 12:28 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 6:28 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 5:36 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Mister Agenda - February 2, 2018 at 11:21 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 28, 2018 at 10:56 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 29, 2018 at 7:44 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 29, 2018 at 11:37 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by CapnAwesome - January 27, 2018 at 9:07 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 27, 2018 at 9:17 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by LadyForCamus - January 27, 2018 at 11:24 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 27, 2018 at 11:43 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 28, 2018 at 3:34 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by vorlon13 - January 29, 2018 at 10:09 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Mr.wizard - January 28, 2018 at 9:37 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Cinjin - January 28, 2018 at 1:03 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Ignorant - January 29, 2018 at 6:49 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Sal - January 29, 2018 at 7:47 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 29, 2018 at 8:32 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Catholic_Lady - January 29, 2018 at 12:13 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by shadow - January 29, 2018 at 12:26 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Brian37 - January 29, 2018 at 6:15 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by vorlon13 - January 29, 2018 at 12:54 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 29, 2018 at 1:08 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by vorlon13 - January 29, 2018 at 1:17 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Whateverist - January 29, 2018 at 1:00 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 29, 2018 at 5:39 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 29, 2018 at 6:14 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 29, 2018 at 11:46 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Magilla - February 1, 2018 at 9:28 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 5:52 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Magilla - February 3, 2018 at 2:21 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Cyberman - February 3, 2018 at 3:22 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 6:48 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 7:06 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Sal - February 2, 2018 at 7:12 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by vorlon13 - February 2, 2018 at 10:39 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 5:27 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 6:33 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 7:09 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Sal - February 2, 2018 at 7:23 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 7:24 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Magilla - February 3, 2018 at 8:47 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Jeezypete - February 4, 2018 at 2:23 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Succubus - February 4, 2018 at 6:14 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by John V - February 8, 2018 at 7:19 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Grandizer - February 8, 2018 at 9:52 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by John V - February 8, 2018 at 9:54 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by polymath257 - February 8, 2018 at 2:55 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by polymath257 - February 9, 2018 at 10:48 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by polymath257 - February 9, 2018 at 11:29 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by polymath257 - February 9, 2018 at 12:16 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by polymath257 - February 9, 2018 at 6:23 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Imabeliever - February 12, 2018 at 5:22 pm

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