RE: Jesus as Lord - why is this appealing to so many?
January 31, 2018 at 2:13 pm
(This post was last modified: January 31, 2018 at 2:16 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(January 31, 2018 at 1:42 pm)KevinM1 Wrote:(January 31, 2018 at 1:22 pm)alpha male Wrote: OK, America. To which I reply - we experience many more power relationships than just the federal government. I gave an example of one that is working out great for me. Another, more common example of a benevolent dictatorship would be parenting.
I think people aren't actually considering the "benevolent" part.
Children aren't adults, and have physiological reasons as to why they cannot make decisions for themselves.
Also, the best bosses aren't dictators, but consensus builders who work with their employees, and are open to change. They may have the final say, but collaboration is highly valued by them.
(January 31, 2018 at 1:30 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Are you hung up on the fact thay we refer to Jesus as Lord? It's an acknowledgement that He is above us and so we look to Him for guidance in life. I mean, being God and all. I don't see the big deal with referring to Him as Lord.
I also don't see any sort of inherent problem with a Kingdom if the ruler is a completely good and perfect being, and when His laws are just. With humans this is a problem because humans are flawed, but we are talking about a perfect and good entity. Not only that, but the entity that created us and our world, and whom we were made to find ultimate fulfillment in.
Well, like I said before, I have an aversion to being lorded over.
I freely admit that it likely stems from my disability, and almost always having a chaperone figure near me. It's a beneficial relationship, yet still chafes. The idea of eternity like that is not something I'd look forward to, and it's hard for me to believe that the people who are gung-ho about it really know what it feels like.
Bottom line is eternity is meant to be ultimate fulfillment, in one way or another. Obviously it isnt going to be something that is annoying. So yeah, if we believe this it seems logical that we would want it.
(January 31, 2018 at 1:55 pm)polymath257 Wrote:(January 31, 2018 at 1:30 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Are you hung up on the fact thay we refer to Jesus as Lord? It's an acknowledgement that He is above us and so we look to Him for guidance in life. I mean, being God and all. I don't see the big deal with referring to Him as Lord.
I also don't see any sort of inherent problem with a Kingdom if the ruler is a completely good and perfect being, and when His laws are just. With humans this is a problem because humans are flawed, but we are talking about a perfect and good entity. Not only that, but the entity that created us and our world, and whom we were made to find ultimate fulfillment in.
'Looking for guidance' isn't the same thing as submission to a Lord. Even a completely benevolent, 'perfect' dictator is still a dictator. A demand for submission is an inherently vile request, even if the being requesting it is 'perfect' (which the very request shows to be false).
And, as for finding 'ultimate fulfillment in' such a being...That just seems horrid to me. It is the tactic of sheep and not humans.
And do they ever tell you why a shepherd watches over his sheep? Because he wants to sell them for slaughter. Sort of changes the imagery of Jesus doens't it?
As I explained on my first couple of posts. Submitting to God means letting go of greed/selfish desires and embracing goodness and love, which are God's ways. It's a positive thing.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
