RE: Jesus as Lord - why is this appealing to so many?
February 9, 2018 at 6:04 pm
(This post was last modified: February 9, 2018 at 6:05 pm by polymath257.)
First, if there were an infinite regress of causes, you would simply always be counting. it isn't a matter of counting up or down from infinity, but simply of always counting.
Those physicists that are searching for the cause of the universe do so within a multiverse model. In that case, the universe of our discourse is the multiverse and time *is* infinite into the past for the multiverse.
Yes, it is a claim. Causality is a well-established part of physics and even in QM, there is the assumption in field theories of causal independence outside of light cones. ALL causality happens withing the universe (or multiverse if you go up to that sort of system).
How about: all known causes are physical causes. There is no reason to suspect anything other.
Well, I don't know about your specific metaphysics, but if it is based on Aristotle (which so much is), then it is guaranteed to be faulty. But feel free to elaborate on your views.
yes, it is called delusional when someone's views are contradictory to reality. Since your view requires well-tested physical laws be violated, it is much, much more likely to have a billion deluded people than that. Not much different than those believing the earth to be flat. They are deluded also. I don't need to know the internal quality of their experience to know it to be delusional.
I'm quite willing to lump the other 'eye-witnesses' together in this. Of course, most of the claims to be eye-witnesses are not validated by the evidence. But yes, the claims of supernatural events in the Bible are delusional. There are historical events that are possible to independently validate (Tiglath Puileser), but others that have been falsified (Exodus, anyone?).
Billions of people also believe in many other superstitions, from crystal power, to Bigfoot, to Yahweh. Numbers don't count for determining truth, I think you will agree.
And some have investigated the evidence more than both of us together and disagree with you. The more someone studies, the less they tend to believe the literal words.
Those physicists that are searching for the cause of the universe do so within a multiverse model. In that case, the universe of our discourse is the multiverse and time *is* infinite into the past for the multiverse.
Yes, it is a claim. Causality is a well-established part of physics and even in QM, there is the assumption in field theories of causal independence outside of light cones. ALL causality happens withing the universe (or multiverse if you go up to that sort of system).
How about: all known causes are physical causes. There is no reason to suspect anything other.
Well, I don't know about your specific metaphysics, but if it is based on Aristotle (which so much is), then it is guaranteed to be faulty. But feel free to elaborate on your views.
yes, it is called delusional when someone's views are contradictory to reality. Since your view requires well-tested physical laws be violated, it is much, much more likely to have a billion deluded people than that. Not much different than those believing the earth to be flat. They are deluded also. I don't need to know the internal quality of their experience to know it to be delusional.
I'm quite willing to lump the other 'eye-witnesses' together in this. Of course, most of the claims to be eye-witnesses are not validated by the evidence. But yes, the claims of supernatural events in the Bible are delusional. There are historical events that are possible to independently validate (Tiglath Puileser), but others that have been falsified (Exodus, anyone?).
Billions of people also believe in many other superstitions, from crystal power, to Bigfoot, to Yahweh. Numbers don't count for determining truth, I think you will agree.
And some have investigated the evidence more than both of us together and disagree with you. The more someone studies, the less they tend to believe the literal words.
