RE: Why am I still worrying about coming out as atheist?
February 10, 2018 at 10:39 am
(This post was last modified: February 10, 2018 at 10:56 am by Little Rik.)
(February 9, 2018 at 4:11 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:(February 9, 2018 at 3:45 am)Little Rik Wrote: It doesn't really matter how many books someone read or how his-her intellect is great.
The thing is that the intellect is controlled by the pituary gland.
Intellectuals fail to understand that above the pituary gland lie the pineal gland which is a lot more powerful that the pituary one so it is obvious that an intellectual will never come up on top when arguing with someone who use intuition which lie in the pineal gland.
I can't believe it dude. You are a Cartesian. I'm not saying this to criticize you or anything, but it's amazing to find someone this day and age saying that the pineal gland is the seat of the soul.
Do you know why Descartes thought that? It was a guess. He did an autopsy on a human brain (or perhaps studied the results of one carried out by another, IDK). But anyway, he concluded that the pineal gland must be the seat of consciousness because everything else in the brain came in pairs. Due to his own philosophical investigations, he concluded that the soul was a unified thing (ie. not in stereo) so, therefore, it seemed likely that the soul most likely contacted the material body via that gland.
Like I said, this was a guess. And not one scrap of evidence has been produced to prove his assertion. Unless you can produce some kind of evidence that the soul interacts with the body through the pineal gland, I'll have to say that materialism remains more plausible to me.
Guesses can be right or wrong.
Obviously atheism is a wrong guess but what Descartes guessed was correct.
Atheism is based on materialism.
The problem with materialism is that it failed to take in consideration that we humans are not only made of matter.
Our consciousness is not made of matter.
Other people other than Descartes did and do different experiments to find out whether the pineal gland is the seat of soul or not.
Yoga is the real way to find this out because yoga is small in theory and big in practice and it is in practicing that you find out who you really are and your connection to a big consciousness that pervade everything.
As a drop of water came from the big ocean she is bound to go back in the same ocean.
Materialism is a total failure in thinking that we are the body and when this body die we also die.
(February 10, 2018 at 9:54 am)Die Atheistin Wrote:(February 10, 2018 at 9:40 am)Little Rik Wrote: In a way this Suc is a good question unfortunately this doesn't save you from failing once again.
The reality is that we humans are stuck inside a body so until this come to an end we are forced to make good use of what we got or better say of our body or vehicle.
If any part of our vehicle doesn't work we are automatically in trouble.
Even if small things such as the sphincter.
I guess you never thought about that Suc, did you?
I'm pretty sure Suc knows what he's talking about. You think our bodies are machines, I agree with that. The brain is our operating system and the rest of the body represents other components. Computers and robots don't have souls and I don't see any evidence that we have.
So you like to compare computer and robot with our consciousness eh?
Consciousness goes in degrees Die.
I guess you never though about that, did you?
A dog has got less consciousness that a human.
A plant less than than an animal and pure matter even less because she is in a latent state of slumber but after million of years this state of slumber slowly start to awake and we can see this in the uranium where energy-consciousness refuse to keep in that state so everything move and change.
Nothing stay the same for ever.
Energy-consciousness clearly refuse to stay in a state of permanent slumber.
Where this energy-consciousness is heading to this I leave to you to guess.
This only show that matter is not us.