RE: Jesus as Lord - why is this appealing to so many?
February 12, 2018 at 7:36 am
(This post was last modified: February 12, 2018 at 7:37 am by GrandizerII.)
(February 11, 2018 at 9:10 pm)polymath257 Wrote:(February 11, 2018 at 5:10 pm)Grandizer Wrote: If I may play Devil's advocate, and because I'm curious about how Steve's overall argument about infinity can be effectively countered without assuming at least B-theory of time (if not eternalism).
Steve isn't necessarily arguing against the existence of an already completed infinity. At least not here (from what I've read). He's arguing against the impossibility of successively adding things (integer by integer) from negative infinity to any integer. Hence, the counting analogy.
Yes, and the porblem here is the implicit assumption that there is a start to all the adding. If there is no start, then the adding has always been going on.
But how does one even start the adding if there is no start to it? And how does the adding have already happened without a start?
Quote:I certainly have no issue with considering time (and space) as a whole. it is done all the time in cosmology. So, time being infinite in one direction or the other is equally problematic. And, in fact, in a multiverse cosmology, time *is* infinite in both directions.
In the case of the B-theory of time, the problem Steve is referring to can no longer apply. The Kalam Cosmological Argument has long been successfully debunked thanks to this well-accepted theory of time (because there is no successive addition going on under such a theory), and only WLC and the likes still desperately cling to it.
