RE: Jesus as Lord - why is this appealing to so many?
February 12, 2018 at 9:29 am
(This post was last modified: February 12, 2018 at 9:30 am by GrandizerII.)
(February 12, 2018 at 9:18 am)polymath257 Wrote:(February 12, 2018 at 9:03 am)Grandizer Wrote: Which isn't something I'm contesting. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying the math is wrong, or that an actual infinity cannot be possible/logical. I'm saying that, in the real world, it seems the act of going through a process of counting from negative infinity seems to be impossibility. If I can't reach my destination in the "negative infinity" direction through counting to the very "end" of the counting process (because there is no end), then how can I even "start" from there all the way back to some arbitrary integer (0, for example)?
Your math example only shows that we can talk about actual infinities (even in the physical world), but it doesn't show me that one can really start counting from "negative infinity" all the way to, say, -4. And similarly, I can go past 4 and count towards the positive direction, but I can only stop at an arbitrary integer eventually, not at the very "end" of the whole set (simply because there is no such thing).
You are right. It doesn't 'start' counting from negative infinity. Instead, it is just always counting. At any point you step down, the counting is going on and has been going on for an infinite amount of time. No beginning, no end.
What you say fits in quite well with the logic of a different way of looking at time (e.g., B-theory of time) because counting, like any act, is not really happening in the intuitive flowing way. There is one instance of you counting the number -4, and the next instance of you counting the number -3, and infinite previous instances of you counting each number previous to -4, and infinite successive instances of you counting each number after -3, provided you are God or something like that and you exist in all these time instances where you can afford to count forever and from eternity.
Again, this is more a problem if we assume the A-theory of time.