RE: Jesus as Lord - why is this appealing to so many?
February 14, 2018 at 12:37 pm
(This post was last modified: February 14, 2018 at 12:38 pm by GrandizerII.)
(February 14, 2018 at 12:14 pm)SteveII Wrote:(February 14, 2018 at 11:52 am)Grandizer Wrote: infinity is not a number, lol.
The set of all positive integers is still the same size as the set of all even positive integers.
Also, what's 0/0? Or 6/0?
Is 0 logically absurd as well?
Leave Cantorian set mathematics to those who are qualified to work with it.
NOT SO FAST. You are not proposing Catorian set mathematics. You are proposing there are real infinities in the real word and Hilbert's hotel shows you what happens when you start talking about infinities in the real world--you get absurdities.
I reject your equations. Stop treating infinity like a number! Infinity is not an element of the set of natural numbers, nor an element of the set of integers, nor an element of the set of real numbers. It's NOT a number! So when you use operations on infinity, you should expect to see results that you wouldn't expect with numbers.
And keep in mind that even with finite numbers, you sometimes get an equation where x is equal to more than one value. That doesn't mean that x is a logical absurdity ...
Quote:Yes, a problem because the math/physics that are showing promise also don't indicate a past eternal universe--and so then begs for an explanation. He clearly does not say there is a problem with the math/physics that infinities would solve. The universe not being past eternal brings up metaphysical question he does not like--a problem for an atheist.
He's saying there are problems with all possibilities, and he is also NOT saying that an infinite universe in time and space is logically impossible. Pay attention.
Quote:Admitting the universe is a brute fact is the same as admitting you have no explanation. An explanation would be that it is possible that an infinite series of causes is logically possible. In other words, if your explanation is that a series of infinite past causes is possible, you are NOT saying the universe is a brute fact--you have an answer!
The problem is no one is saying that. The smartest atheists admit the universe is a brute fact.
Saying something is logically possible doesn't mean being confident of it as actual.
