(February 15, 2018 at 4:47 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:(February 15, 2018 at 3:52 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I didn’t say, nor do I advocate anything of the sort.
Ah, but RoadRunner - for a gay person like myself, that is EXACTLY what Pence was supporting. Have you ever visited a re-education camp? Talked to someone who has been in one of those CHRISTIAN "Re-Programming" camps? Talked to someone like myself who was forced into "corrective" therapy?
I really doubt it. I would bet my house and my job that you haven't taken a good look at that horror. The beatings, the all-night "therapy" sessions, the malnutrition and forced labor. The ones for females are a little different. They add corrective rape to the mix. And I'm not just describing a few bad apples here - I'm describing a network.
But it's just a sick-in-the-head, demon-possessed queer, so if the therapy doesn't take (it doesn't) who cares? We tried to beat god into him. We did our duty.
This is a small portion of what Pence supported. And Divinity's response was the best I've ever seen.
I would even be careful here. Are these things that Pence actually said and advocated for. Or are you taking a little bit of facts (that he may have supported conversion therapy) and filling in a narrative for much of it. What did he think it was? Some people may not have realized what they where actually supporting. There is also different levels or ideas about therapy. It is my understanding, that some of the laws may prohibit some therapy, that is voluntary and desired by the patient, but does not advance the LGBT agenda. I think that this is wrong. But on the other hand, I think that forcing these types of things is more harmful.
I don't look badly on Rippon for not meeting with him. All I'm asking is that people distinguish between the facts, and the narrative they have made up in their head. To perhaps consider a little bit of charity, and that it isn't anything more than it appears (a nice gesture).
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If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther