RE: Pence VS. Rippon
February 18, 2018 at 10:49 pm
(This post was last modified: February 18, 2018 at 10:53 pm by SteelCurtain.)
(February 18, 2018 at 9:23 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: First its up to you to justify your assertions. We don’t just assume you are right, and it is on the other side to show you are wrong. Second, I did give you the information needed to prove your assertions wrong (I said no.... I don’t believe that). Lastly, you didn’t have anywhere near the justification or information you needed for you very negative assertions about me. If you did, then you wouldn’t be asking for more info.
Jaysus did you just pull the "burden of proof" argument when what I did was ask you a question? Do you not understand what an assertion is? I didn't make any assertions. I made judgements. These judgements were based on the following things that you said:
(February 15, 2018 at 11:21 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: No... I'm not debating same sex union "rights" or any of those things.
(February 15, 2018 at 5:57 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Someone can believe that homosexual activity is wrong, or that we should not have re-defined marriage for homosexuals, and it's not about hate.
(February 15, 2018 at 5:57 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: People also cite Pences record of voting against "gay rights"
(February 15, 2018 at 11:21 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: And when I brought this up, it was basically justified and I was told it was just spin and it would continue, unless he supported the homosexual agenda
I have asked you pointed questions. You repeatedly dodge them and try to act like I'm making statements about you. I am asking you to defend or explain what you said.
And so, again:
Why do you write "gay rights" in scare quotes?
What is the homosexual agenda?
(February 18, 2018 at 9:23 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Also, as previously noted and quite ironically, this is precisely what I was talking about before in regards to Pence/Rippon and the way people are behaving. It is dishonest, and wrong; dispite any ones position on the subject on the subject otherwise. If you think your position is valid, then make your case off of facts and reason, not attacking the opposition and poisoning the well. As well; I wasn’t making any particular statement about anything else, which is relevant.
What the hell are you even talking about? Pence is an anti-gay bigot. He has repeatedly supported and endorsed legislation that seeks to limit the personhood of LGBTQ+ individuals, to limit their protections from discrimination, and to limit life saving programs for an extremely vulnerable population.
Why would any self-respecting gay person even consider giving him the time of day? Is your entire point that since people connected some dots that weren't necessarily there about conversion therapy, that all of the other stuff doesn't count?
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