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What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
Quote:Assuming that Jesus did not rise, yes. Assuming He did (the evangelical view), no. We would need to look at the historical evidence and argue from there, but the objections to a literal resurrection (grave robbing, hallucinations, etc.) are pretty weak.
Actually they are very strong . It's the historical case for Jesus that is weak . 


Quote:All we know about these "rules" from a natural perspective comes from empirical observation. On the most basic level, they are not absolutely necessary. For instance, all I know is that every time I've dropped a pen, I've seen it fall. From this observation, I can say that something (the law of gravity) causes it to fall. This doesn't logically imply that the pen must fall in every case; it simply observes what we have seen. This is Hume's "Problem of Induction." Christian theology holds that all such natural laws or "rules" are the secondary means by which God allows the universe to operate, and miracles such as those in the Bible are rare cases in which He temporarily suspends these secondary laws to act in a way that we cannot fully understand or explain. 
Their is no reason to believe their are exception nor any being can suspend them . And the problem of induction is all often trotted out to excuse miracles.


Quote: For one, we are all naturally guilty sinners regardless of the types or quantity of sins we commit. We are condemned first and foremost because of our sinful nature itself. God is the authority who recognizes and legislates objective moral standards, of which lust is a violation. Scripture, as inspired by God, serves as the most important standard of divine authority according to which we make epistemological and moral judgments.
Then your morality is worthless unjust and vile.


Quote:Even if that's entirely true, it doesn't contradict the assertion that God created the cosmos. 

No but it renders him redundant

Quote:unless you choose not to.
Nope id god existed and were really god . Then no one could deny it.

Quote:I choose not to know anything about bonno
Bonno is not god 


Quote:I choose not to know anything about Rachel 'mad cow' on CSNBC
Rational intelligent journalist Rachel is not god .

Quote:Yet like you and God I am aware of them.
No because none of them are god or anything like a god .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold? - by Amarok - March 5, 2018 at 5:41 pm

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