What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?

[drfuzzy]

In 1979, in music college, a professor told us "Never, under any circumstances, take a church job.  BUT! We're musicians, and we have to eat.  So most of you will."  (-- I should have changed majors right there. ) There are atheist church musician support groups - I'm a member of one.  It's impossible to guess how many of us there are, obviously, since in order to keep our weekend jobs we can't be "out".  (There are a lot of gay church musicians too.)  In the Bible Belt, the best guess is 20% of church musicians.  Some of my friends in Boston and LA are sure that the number of atheist church musicians is more than 50%.

Anyone who claims to have a personal relationship with an entity that cannot be seen, heard, or felt, and needs a human being to tell other human beings what its wants and needs are . . . oh yeah, the burden of proof is on the person making the claim.  And, of course, that's a basic tenet of logic and debate.  You have been told this dozens of times on this forum, but you stubbornly dispute it, because you cannot prove your pet deity exists.

Your system of 'proof' work no other way/make no logical sense other than being an obstical for God to over come and then/thereby be subjegated to 'science' thus proving He is not God.

Think about it in what trial is not eye witness testimony invalid? in what court is the eye witness testimony by billions thrown out and laught at?

Then a demand made that in order to prove an all powerful God subjugate Himself to the confines and limitation/predictable reactions to prodding and testing of small minded 'science' would thus disqualify him as being all powerful since He has made the declaration that He will hide himself from those who seek to discover God on those terms.

Proof is not for any of to give. All any of us can do it tell you where and how to find it. GOD Himself provides the proof. Once you find that/once you know what it is you are looking for, nothing for you can deny who/what God is.

A book of silly, flawed fairy tales is not proof.  Stories told by con men and witch doctors is not proof.  "Eye-witness testimony" contained in an old book of fairy tales is not "eye-witness".  (Now, if you had a few dozen texts from Roman, Greek, and Jewish historians written in the year 32-ish, that might have some value. These have not been found.) Personal stories about god go in the same category as personal stories about being abducted by aliens.  If people pray to experience something hard enough, most people will experience something and attribute it to - whatever they were told to expect.  I need more substantive proof.  If there is an all-powerful deity that actually wants humans to know of its existence, then it is quite capable of providing clear proof that cannot be mistaken for human fantasy and story telling.