RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 8, 2018 at 2:58 am
(This post was last modified: March 8, 2018 at 3:07 am by Godscreated.)
(March 7, 2018 at 7:09 am)Lutrinae Wrote:(March 7, 2018 at 2:03 am)Godscreated Wrote: I do not have the burden of proof on me because God has never told anyone to prove His existence, that He says is His work.
A convenient, rubbish, apologetic that frees the believer from any intellectual responsibility. The same untruthful line could be used to personally validate belief in anything, and has been used to such an extent even especially by mentally ill people who prefer delusion over reality.
Okay Mr. Smarty, show me where in scripture God says we have to prove His existence to anyone. Christians can't even prove it to themselves, God reveals His existence to us, like I said it is His work. Then deluded one is the one who answered my post and wrote the above rubbish.
GC
(March 7, 2018 at 12:11 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:(March 7, 2018 at 2:03 am)Godscreated Wrote: Being raised in any denomination and/or being associated with them doesn't mean you know what Christianity is, if you did as an atheist you wouldn't be playing in any church. Your the one doing it wrong and falsely accusing all those churches of condemning the others of false whatever. You being bigoted toward Christianity means what you have to say about it is worthless.
I do not have the burden of proof on me because God has never told anyone to prove His existence, that He says is His work. Your comic illustration is nothing more than comical, even on the childish side. Then why do you play an organ in the church seems you are the hypocrite of hypocrites.
GC
In 1979, in music college, a professor told us "Never, under any circumstances, take a church job. BUT! We're musicians, and we have to eat. So most of you will." (-- I should have changed majors right there. ) There are atheist church musician support groups - I'm a member of one. It's impossible to guess how many of us there are, obviously, since in order to keep our weekend jobs we can't be "out". (There are a lot of gay church musicians too.) In the Bible Belt, the best guess is 20% of church musicians. Some of my friends in Boston and LA are sure that the number of atheist church musicians is more than 50%.
Anyone who claims to have a personal relationship with an entity that cannot be seen, heard, or felt, and needs a human being to tell other human beings what its wants and needs are . . . oh yeah, the burden of proof is on the person making the claim. And, of course, that's a basic tenet of logic and debate. You have been told this dozens of times on this forum, but you stubbornly dispute it, because you cannot prove your pet deity exists.
I've said many times here that I can not prove He exists to the satisfaction of those who deliberately blind themselves to the truth. I can tell you this I doubt you will find many atheist musicians in Southern Baptist churches. You treat me as if I'm stupid, yet you play music as an atheist every Sunday morning for something you do not even believe in, so who is the traitor to their own beliefs, I bet the churches you play for do not know you are an atheist, do they, bet you just go about acting out the part of a Christian just to get paid,a double standard that is nothing short of a lie. Have you no shame, pretending to be something you are not, betraying who you are and you all call me crazy.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.