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What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 8, 2018 at 11:23 am)drfuzzy Wrote:
(March 8, 2018 at 2:58 am)Godscreated Wrote:  I've said many times here that I can not prove He exists to the satisfaction of those who deliberately blind themselves to the truth. I can tell you this I doubt you will find many atheist musicians in Southern Baptist churches. You treat me as if I'm stupid, yet you play music as an atheist every Sunday morning for something you do not even believe in, so who is the traitor to their own beliefs, I bet the churches you play for do not know you are an atheist, do they, bet you just go about acting out the part of a Christian just to get paid,a double standard that is nothing short of a lie. Have you no shame, pretending to be something you are not, betraying who you are and you all call me crazy.

GC

Oh, I have been trying for years to find a job that will pay me enough to insure that I never have to set foot into the loony-bin again.  (I even got a second Masters to make this happen.  Don't try to change careers in your 50's.  Not a good idea.)

Becoming disabled in your 50's is no fun either. Someone with all your education shouldn't have trouble finding a job, many people go into a different line of work that they were not directly educated to preform, you must be really picky about what you will do for a job. Oh no that can't be true because you are working at a job where you hate all that it represents and you lie to the people who employ you, can't lower yourself much more than that or maybe there's a reason you do not want to reveal.

drfuzzy Wrote:I personally know two atheists who entertain the "Southern Baptists" every weekend, and that's just in our little town.  Yes, it's irritating.  But I do take notes on the readings and interpretations for my journal of "idiotic things that I have heard from the pulpit" - our atheist musician group meets every other month, and our notes make for a lot of hilarity.  That helps.  Most of the choir members and director know I don't believe, and they like me anyway.

They do not like you, they love you as they should, they are in hope that you will hear God's calling. I bet you do not tell them what you say on this forum nor do you let them know they are the brunt of your jokes at your meetings. These people who care about you and pay you a salary are treated by you as a joke, who's the idiotic one. Bold by me. I doubt the Southern Baptist churches where your friends play know they are atheist. The Southern Baptist churches around here wouldn't let some one hold a position in the church without they were a member and if those friends joined the churches then they too are living a lie among God's people. I find it curious and a bit illogical that well educated atheist
who live by logic could do what you and your friends are doing and I find it hard to believe that you can't find better paying jobs. I do find it highly reasonable that you are stuck in a job you do not want to be in though.

drfuzzy Wrote:As many of us here have said, we're not "deliberately blinding ourselves to the truth".  We honestly don't think your sky fairy exists.  No evidence.  That goes for those of us who were raised Southern Baptist.  I personally feel as if I have been freed from a delusion.  There is no god.  There is no afterlife.

Yes you are deliberately blinding yourselves to the truth. Excuses are what the lost use to ignore God and if you do not think I'm right then go study the OT and see what the Israelites did and then what happened to them. When I first became a believer I had no direct evidence that God existed, it did come afterwards and because I now have that evidence there is no way I can deny the living God, I would be lying to myself and that is a pretty low thing for someone to do to themself. There is only one true God and the afterlife belongs to Him and we can either join Him in it or go to an eternal punishment of our own making an afterlife I see no real life in, personally I'm elated that I will be joining Him.

drfuzzy Wrote:You cannot prove your imaginary friend exists. Then what are you doing here, preaching to a bunch of atheists who think you sound like a kid who is screaming because we just told him Santa Claus doesn't exist?  All you do is call us stupid and say that "the scriptures" (lol) say this or don't say that.

Not to your satisfaction I can't, but then I nor any other Christian are required by God to do so. By the same token you can't disprove God and that leaves a door open to the possibility He does exist regardless of what you want to believe. Puts you and me in two different boats sailing in two different directions even though you go to church every Sunday. And people will say, "but Lord didn't I do these things because of your name," and Jesus will say, "leave Me for I never knew you." I couldn't imagine anything worse to hear knowing what will be awaiting next.
As I've explained to others we never know when someone will decide what Christians have is worth finding. It's happened here before and I'm thinking it will happen again. My main purpose here is to witness to those who visit here looking for some answers, you all are the pulpit I'm able to witness from. God will us whoever He desires for His purpose and you of all the people here should be able to see this. I know other Christians who have been here were here for the same reason. I do not scream because I am certain as I'm responding to you that the God of creation and the Bible lives, no doubts never and that is truly awesome. When I call someone stupid on this forum it's because they are acting stupid and that's usually a kid trying to impress the older atheist, not always though some times people are just being stupid and the thing is they know it. The scriptures do speak to those who have ears to hear, you should try listening for a change, just encase you're wrong, it's not like you don't have the opportunity to do so. Would it really hurt you to listen instead of looking for jokes to tell about those who love you.

 
drfuzzy Wrote:As if that offensive book has any meaning.  It seems to me that you just think you have all the answers, you're "blessed" (a term that means my imaginary friend loves me better than those guys over there), and that you really get off on telling people that they are WRONG and you are RIGHT and "I don't have any proof and I don't have to give any proof".  Pathetic.

 You are right it is an offensive book, it never tries to defend what it says, it goes rolling on to witness about the living God who wants you to be a part of His family. One thing you can count on and if you were to ever listen to a sermon I'm sure you would hear this, God loves you just as much as He loves me. Want proof of this then read the parable of the ninety- nine sheep. Or you might read the parable of the prodigal son. Both reveal God's love for the lost and/or straying. You are correct to say I'm bless because it's true and it's not because of what I've ever done, it's because of what God has done through me. It brings me no pleasure to tell people they are wrong about God and His word, I find it a sad thing to need to say and I'm only right because of God not of myself. You see me as someone who thinks more about himself than others, if that were true I would not have stayed here for eight years listening to people tell me I'm everything but human, I've stayed for those who will listen even if I never have a chance to directly correspond with them. Now you are trying to deceive people into thinking I've said I have no proof of God and that's not true and you know it. I've said I have nothing the blind will listen to, Jesus told people that they couldn't see because they were blind and couldn't hear because they were deaf and those were people who witnessed miracles preformed by Him. When you go to church this Sunday listen to the music and you just might get to dance on God's great dance floor for the very first time (I borrowed those words from a song I'm listening to now.) The music I'm speaking of is not what you play nor the singing of the choir or church, just listen it will be playing I can promise that, He will make sure that the song you need is playing and I promise this, it will be the sweetest music you will ever hear. I'm glad we've been able to have a good conversation I have enjoyed it and hope we have more, thank you.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold? - by Godscreated - March 9, 2018 at 5:17 am

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