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What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 14, 2018 at 12:54 pm)He lives Wrote:
(March 14, 2018 at 12:41 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: No, Blackmore made an empirical and falsifiable claim about what you would expect to see in the brain wave patterns if Miss Z awoke and stood up and what Tart's own study supposedly showed. Again, that's not bias. That's science.

She is stating that the change in brainwave activity shows that she stood up. It does not necessarily mean that. She has stated an opinion not an absolute. It would have been better it there was a video camera in the room. However this was conducted in 1968. I am sure if it was reenacted today there would be a video camera present.

She said no such thing. Here's the relevant part from what I quoted earlier:

Susan Blackmore wrote "If Miss Z had tried to climb up, the brain-wave record would have showed a pattern of interference. And that was exactly what it did show."[10]

The brain-wave pattern showed interference consistent with what one would expect to find 'if Miss Z had tried to climb up'. This alone is sufficient to cast doubt on whether an actual OBE happened.

As for the rest, it's a pity that video hadn't been invented by 1968. It sure would have come in handy.  Rolleyes
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold? - by Crossless2.0 - March 14, 2018 at 1:02 pm

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