RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 14, 2018 at 1:15 pm
(March 14, 2018 at 1:09 pm)He lives Wrote:(March 14, 2018 at 12:52 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: Punishment for evildoers? Yes, I'm a strong supporter of a sound judicial system and punishments commensurate with crimes committed.
What I don't believe in are eternal punishments for finite crimes or for 'thought crimes' like not believing in the right savior figure. That's your gang.
That is not my gang. However, there are things I punish myself for doing because I wish I hadn't done them. I may never forget this. We are our own judge and jury especially when we see our life review. We also punish ourselves for not doing things we wish we would have done.
(March 14, 2018 at 1:02 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: She said no such thing. Here's the relevant part from what I quoted earlier:
Susan Blackmore wrote "If Miss Z had tried to climb up, the brain-wave record would have showed a pattern of interference. And that was exactly what it did show."[10]
The brain-wave pattern showed interference consistent with what one would expect to find 'if Miss Z had tried to climb up'. This alone is sufficient to cast doubt on whether an actual OBE happened.
As for the rest, it's a pity that video hadn't been invented by 1968. It sure would have come in handy.
As I said she would have been disconnected if she tried to get up. Susan did net take this into account, but she was not there.
So a diagram not drawn to scale is your hope for salvaging a study that is pretty much universally discounted by everyone but those with a strong desire that it be so? Have fun with that.
