RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 17, 2018 at 5:53 am
(This post was last modified: March 17, 2018 at 6:26 am by Whateverist.)
(March 17, 2018 at 12:43 am)He lives Wrote:Whateverist Wrote:Nope, and neither has anyone else including your secret friend. Living things are not constructed, they self assemble. The wonders of chemistry and organic chemistry. Ain't it great?
Bold added by me.
Perhaps you could tell the scientific community how you did it so they won't have to spend so much time and money trying to figure out the human genome.
*my underlining*
What part of self assemble don't you understand? When I say new organisms self assemble I am ruling out that they are put together through external agency, my own included. New organisms literally put themselves together by way of chemical transformations dictated by the DNA. No part of putting a fetus together is directed by the intentions or actions of the parents, and nothing is required of any gods, pixies or birds/bees either. It is a very complex chemical process known as sexual reproduction. Once the sex cells of the parents come together the chemical reactions which direct the assembly of the new organism are astoundingly complex but no external agency is required.
(March 17, 2018 at 1:22 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Isn't that his default answer to everything . Along with his other fallacies . Which let's face it is ID in a nutshell. Bad reasoning and ignorance parading as science .
This nutter is a parrot, possibly a dead one where new learning is concerned.
(March 16, 2018 at 11:32 pm)Khemikal Wrote: The distinction between natural and artificial in evolutionary biology is the difference between nature and artifice. As in, something being made the way it is - not natural and "non-natural". That's why a car would be artificial. A termite mound is also artificial in this way. In that it's made to be that way, not something that occurs outside of artifice.
The creationist conjecture, is that everything is artificial. God's artifice.
Interestingly a human being is not artifice by this definition, but rather entirely natural. A baby is not 'made' by its parents, but by the chemistry set in motion by conjoining their sex cells.
This shows that natural processes are capable of greater complexity than is artifice because artifice is only practiced by living beings or the products of living beings.
