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What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
Quote:Of course ID is fallacious reasoning to you
No it's fallious period no matter who you are . Fallacies are not a matter of opinion .Fallacies don't care how creative or inventive you are . There as obvious to a dullard as the are to a genius . 



Quote:that's the whole point of what I'm saying,
You have no point just games



Quote:you don't have to prove what you think,
I already stated the fallacies ID has. And that it's proponents have yet to give evidence of it in nature that does not rely on fallacies .





Quote:you've made that pretty clear.
The thing i have made clear is ID is fallacious 



Quote:You cannot possibly see ID if you don't have it.
Lol that's rubbish if ID were real the evidence would stand as would it's reasoning . Regardless of the person .  


Quote:When you ask for evidence, that's like a person who can't read demanding that the book reveals itself.
Nope when i ask for evidence it's like a person asking for evidence and sound non fallacious reasoning   .And a fraud saying you need magic hex vision to see the fallacious as not fallacious . "you just have to imagine the emperor has clothes on and that he's not naked " That's essentially you



Quote:Unless of course you can show that you are inventive, creative etc.
Nope if ID is real it should not matter it should be obvious to anyone from the most creative to the least . And the reasoning  should be sound and without fallacy. This game does not work on me . Show ID fallacies are not fallacies or i will have to conclude your defeat . 

As i said i have patients for your games. At least most other ID advocates like Jonathan Wells or  Michael Behe don't need to resort to such piss poor distractions. They actual deal with their critics . Instead of insisting that your creative talents are prerequisite to understanding ID or criticizing their ideas . And hold that the ID inference is available to anyone. I may think their dishonest clowns but i can at least respect them for that. A respect you will never have.

(March 17, 2018 at 7:42 am)Succubus Wrote:
(March 17, 2018 at 7:25 am)Tizheruk Wrote: He thinks the ability to design man made  things gives people magic powers to see ID in nature as not fallacious bunk and baseless film flam . And intelligence as a bane to bad reasoning .

Aye, and if he was in anyway interested in finding the truth ™ of ID he would know that its proponents Michael Behe, William Dembski, Phillip Johnson et al, have openly stated the designer they refer to, is God.
Hoist with their own petard springs to mind, but then Christian fundies don't do irony.
Yup i may think all they above are dishonest loons . But thier at least loons who do ID right . They make a case . They provide evidence . They actually address fallacies their critics point out . And at no point do they say . "You have to be an artistic genius to get their theories or criticize them" . They may suck at all they above . But at least they have the balls to do it . Unlike banned the coward who resorts to games to hide his idea's flaws.
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold? - by Amarok - March 17, 2018 at 8:18 am

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