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What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 17, 2018 at 12:04 pm)Grandizer Wrote:
(March 17, 2018 at 11:43 am)He lives Wrote: Your hypothesis of self creation does not conform to reasonable logic.

Grandizer Wrote:He didn't argue that things create themselves. The argument is that chemistry is a thing ... that happens ... naturally, without the need for divine intervention.

Quote:The complexity of DNA is absolute proof of ID over happenstance.

Grandizer Wrote:There's no absolute proof here (in a world of large numbers, even what is deemed improbable is possible), and nobody is arguing for spontaneous generation (which is what it seems that you mean when you say "happenstance"). So quit repeating the same old same old, and listen to what we're actually saying. You might end up learning something for a change.

It might be thought … that evolutionary arguments would play a large part in guiding biological research, but this is far from the case. It is difficult enough to study what is happening now. To figure out exactly what happened in evolution is even more difficult. Thus evolutionary achievements can be used as hints to suggest possible lines of research, but it is highly dangerous to trust them too much. It is all too easy to make mistaken inferences unless the process involved is already very well understood. 

— Francis Crick

Happenstance is just another word meaning abiogenesis. The whole premise behind abiogenesis is happenstance. The hypothesis is that conditions were just right for life to come about by extraordinary means. However due to the amazing complexity of the DNA molecule, abiogenesis is an impossibility just like it is an impossibility for nature to create a encyclopedia when there is a windstorm with lightening. I don't think you really understand just how improbable abiogenesis is.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold? - by He lives - March 17, 2018 at 2:33 pm

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