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What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 17, 2018 at 10:28 pm)He lives Wrote:
(March 17, 2018 at 4:56 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:

We are certainly here, but it is not due to abiogenesis.

(sigh) abiogenesis again.  Yeah.  Amazing, how the theists swarm over here and crow that scientists have not proven abiogenesis, there are problems with the concept, therefore, GOD!!!

Well, first, research on abiogenesis has shown that the chemical stew on the young earth held all of the elements required for life to develop.  http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/03/r...-conundrum
And new developments on what was missing from earlier studies are being discovered on a regular basis.  https://www.sciencealert.com/compound-ex...igins-life     
But of course, this ignorant troll isn't here to learn anything, is he? 

But even then, the assertion IS that abiogenesis could not have happened, so therefore, GOD!!!  God provided the <what-the-hell-ever-it-is> spark of life. So??
God supposedly stitched together basic life, which slowly developed into sea life and plants and then dinosaurs.  Dinosaurs ruled the earth from approximately 252 to 66 million years ago.  They were long gone before any early proto-human ape tried to stand up to search over the savannah grass for predators.  So??

What was the purpose of dinosaurs?  Rough drafts?  186 million years just playing? No sign of sentience in the big lizards, so send in a comet, start over?  Actually, there have been 5 mass extinctions, just not the one.  And only 1.5 - give or take a few - million years ago a bunch of apes turned into homo erectus and caught this deity's attention?  Then hey!!!  That little itty bitty tribe there, on the edge of the Mediterranean sea - it would decide that they were SPECIAL and it would be their god.  Not god for the Egyptians or the Chinese or the Hittites or the Aztecs . . . just these little Hebaru creatures.  It chose to be a garden-variety war god, bloodthirsty and tribal, but never mind about that part.  

Maybe there WAS some super-intelligent something that smacked a bunch of amino acids into DNA and started life.  So??  It didn't leave any evidence of its existence.  There is absolutely no reason to believe it exists.  Why should we pay it any attention until it shows up and says "hi"???  

Abiogenesis. I'm pretty sure that it will either be proven as true, or a better answer will be found.  That's the great thing about science - when something is shown to be wrong, it's a wonderful thing.  This means that we are closer to finding the real answers.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold? - by drfuzzy - March 18, 2018 at 12:24 am

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