RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 21, 2018 at 2:16 pm
(This post was last modified: March 21, 2018 at 2:20 pm by He lives.)
(March 21, 2018 at 12:44 am)Grandizer Wrote:(March 21, 2018 at 12:40 am)He lives Wrote: People tend to believe in creatio ex nihilo even though there is no mention of it in the Bible. I believe that matter has always existed. I also believe that there are those who can control matter.
Fair enough then. But why the need for God in this case? If matter has always been, that is.
Quote:The evidence is there for those who look for it.
I'm all eyes and ears. It's just that reports of experiences with heaps of differences (involving different deities and visions and manifestations depending on one's culture) and easily explained as products of human psychology aren't going to be convincing.
We need God because we would not exist without him. Everyone has their own perception even during a NDE. However there are many commonalities. I have read many books on NDEs and I am convinced there is much more to a NDE than it being a dream or a hallucination. There are people with enough faith to defy scientific reality.
(March 21, 2018 at 12:54 am)Tizheruk Wrote:Quote:So, you really haven't done any research and expect to be convincing?Did i say that ?No i don't believe i did ?
I also did not research the case for a flat earth or (insert rubbish here ) it first implies their is something worth researching .
And who am i trying too convince ? you .
Quote:I have done extensive research on NDEs. I have talked with people who have had them, read close to 100 books, and gone to IANDS meetings. People who have had full blown NDEs have made drastic changes in their lives. There are people are either afraid of or not interested in NDEsSo you have wasted hours of your life on nothing . And changes in peoples life does not make something real . Not interested is the only valid category as their is next to nothing to it .
Quote: You mean ID vs happenstance? At least ID is logical
You mean nonsense vs your strawman of real science . And nope ID is not logical nor evidenced .
Quote:As more and more people have NDEs and tell about them, more doctors and researchers are understanding the importance of the research that is being doneNope NDE is fringe and it will always remain fringe and collapse into obscenity like all pseudoscience with only a few nuts desperate to get famous or scam people continuing
Quote:Miracles always seem impossible to those who do not understand the science behind them.Nope they are impossible period and excuses of kicking the can will not change that.
Quote:It will be a great day once there is proof that the spirit can and does leave the body.Yes and on that day pigs will fly up will be declared down and fire will be absolute zero .
Your thoughts and opinions have no credibility because of lack of any real understanding of the subject.