RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 24, 2018 at 2:37 pm
(This post was last modified: March 24, 2018 at 2:53 pm by He lives.)
(March 24, 2018 at 12:39 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Mucking about with NDEs and OOBEs is CLEARLY forbidden.
"There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who casts a spell, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead.
There are limitations to that scripture. Do you speak to the dead (Jesus)? Did Jesus speak with the dead:
(New Testament | Mark 9:4)
4 And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus.
Is there an NDE mentioned in the Bible?:
(New Testament | 2 Corinthians 12:2 - 4)
2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth

3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth

4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.
NDEs are not about fortune telling, casting spells, witchcraft, sorcery, mediums, or denying God or the Holy Ghost. Do you listen to the Holy Ghost? The Holy Ghost is a spirit.
(March 24, 2018 at 12:43 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Now the Pam Reynolds story has lost all coherence. It was an OBE that had nothing to do with her brain death-- or it did have something to do with it??--it could have happened either way?? What exactly does her simulated brain death have to with it it, then?
So far, this isn't very convincing.
NDE skeptics do not believe that it is possible for a person to have any perception when the brain is clinically dead. However Pam was able to describe the procedure and the instruments that were used while she was clinically brain dead.