RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 29, 2018 at 10:30 am
(March 29, 2018 at 9:53 am)Drich Wrote: You simply and blindly identify with pop science. for you there is no faith in that as it is been programmed into you to be automatic. however the truth is if you took the time to understand all of the competing theories in science on things like the big bang and evolution you'd see that some of it makes more sense as it is a more modern understanding of the evidence or facts that what was postulated several hundred years ago. So again if you understood or acknoweledged anything else not pop science had to offer you could see your own faith in your brand of science.
Rinse and repeat, regardless of what anyone says to your inane questions. Do you really need us to hear this internal dialogue? Why do you engage people with this nonsense and then clearly ignore every point they make only to look for an opening to repeat one of your mantras. You're not really ready to interact with people having different ideas from your own.
(March 29, 2018 at 9:53 am)Drich Wrote:(March 29, 2018 at 1:11 am)robvalue Wrote: Right. Science is falsifiable. Theories are falsifiable. So the alternative explanation is one of these:
1) No one has noticed these theories are not falsifiable
2) No has noticed that data falsifies these theories
3) There's some worldwide scientific conspiracy that silences people who notice that theories are not falsifiable, or can be falsified by data
How likely are these scenarios? In my estimation, these are so incredibly unlikely that they can be safely discounted. It's more likely that I'm actually crazy/asleep/hallucinating all this, and science makes sense only within the context of this experience. Even if that's the case, it still makes sense internally, and these figments of my imagination aren't doing a good job of persuading me otherwise within my virtual reality. Bad figments.
why would you approach religion as you would approach science?
would it not be more 'fair'/make more sense to approach religion as you would a trial or a court case and process evidences as you would in a legal proceeding?
I don't approach religious proselytizing with the methodology of either science or law. I merely go on believing what I have the best reason to think is true. Speculation is a different matter, and I have my own which at least does not conflict with what I have reason to think is true. Why would I be interested in trading that for something as ridiculous as a biblical narrative?
(March 29, 2018 at 9:53 am)Drich Wrote: After all if there is a promise to meet God in this life and people have claimed to have done this, then shouldn't the path to God be examined through the lenses of testimony and verification? rather than try and make God bend or kneel to our scientific understanding/put God in a box.
And so you stand in your corner babbling your nonsense to yourself after ignoring everyone's points. Boring.