RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 29, 2018 at 12:29 pm
(This post was last modified: March 29, 2018 at 12:31 pm by Amarok.)
Quote:Wrong. Any such "test" is meaningless unless you assume (1) that said test is reliable in the results it yields, and (2) that the observer's senses are reliable in their observation of those results.Nope it's you who is wrong .And for the same reason as before .
Your presup nonsense will not fly here .
(March 29, 2018 at 11:18 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote:Indeed someone is just parroting sye ten bruggencate apologist tract .(March 29, 2018 at 10:38 am)stretch3172 Wrote: Wrong. Any such "test" is meaningless unless you assume (1) that said test is reliable in the results it yields, and (2) that the observer's senses are reliable in their observation of those results.
Unless that "more" includes a being who maintains the universe and is capable of changing your entire life for the better, in which case it could affect you greatly. Also, I didn't say that scientists have faith in data. Data is objective. Our perception of that data, however, is filtered through our own senses and means of measurement, which we must assume to be correct.
You could save a lot of time and just start making your presuppositionalist case, since that's where you're heading anyway.
*yawn*
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