RE: The Philosophy of Mind: Zombies, "radical emergence" and evidence of non-experiential
April 21, 2018 at 10:43 am
(This post was last modified: April 21, 2018 at 11:09 am by Edwardo Piet.)
(April 21, 2018 at 10:38 am)Khemikal Wrote: -again, while it may be possible that a creature could have all the benefits of what we describe as vision without conscious experience of vision..this is a moot point..because that's not how we do vision.
And that's the user illusion that Dennett speaks of that I already spoke about. It doesn't make philosophical zombies incoherent or the hard problem not a problem... but at the same time radical emergence seems silly and there doesn't seem to be any of evidence of anything but seeming. And the idea that there is no "real seeming" is the silliest claim of all time.
The point is that this "user illusion" appears to be a completely useless user illusion... unlike our computer desktop. And his analogy fails because he claims that there is no real seeming, but he doesn't claim that the computer screen isn't really there.
(April 21, 2018 at 10:41 am)Khemikal Wrote: If you say so.
Well, the scientific evidence is on my side..... as is the logic. All that's on your side is strawmanning my points. You're the least useful person to participate on my thread and the last person I wanted here (MK would be incoherent and nonsensical as fuck but even he wouldn't strawnman all my points to the level you do), but hey, I can't stop you participating... there's a rule against that, so go for it. You still suck though.
