RE: Theists: Hitchens Wager
April 22, 2018 at 5:32 pm
(This post was last modified: April 22, 2018 at 5:33 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(April 22, 2018 at 5:29 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't think an atheist can claim moral objectivity. Many do, but I personally don't see how it makes any sense to do so unless you believe in a higher being/moral law maker.
If morality is truly objective then surely it transcends even God though?
The Euthyphro dilemma Wrote:Is what is morally good commanded by God because it is morally good, or is it morally good because it is commanded by God?
If it's commanded by God because it's morally good, then you don't need God because you have moral goodness. If it's only good because God says so, then God can command evil things and merely say it's good.
I think the point is that if morality is objective, it's independent of anyone's opinion... including God's.
(April 22, 2018 at 5:31 pm)chimp3 Wrote:(April 22, 2018 at 5:29 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't think an atheist can claim moral objectivity. Many do, but I personally don't see how it makes any sense to do so unless you believe in a higher being/moral law maker.The wager has nothing to do with moral "objectivity".
True but it's fun to debate anyway