Theists: Hitchens Wager

[henryp]

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So if you politely open a door for a nice old lady, but unbenownst to you, it frees a pack of wolves who devour her.  Was it immoral?

Yes.

If intention isn't an issue, would that make Tornado's immoral?

No because it only governs the consequences of human actions.

2nd one 1st.  Could we talk about Tornado morality in the same way we talk about Human morality?  And the only difference is the somewhat arbitrary 'must be human' aspect?

Also, how long do you have for the consequences to play out?  If I kick a pregnant lady down a flight of stairs, but it turns out her baby was Hitler, does that make it moral?

Follow up on that, given that comparing possible results requires knowledge of alternative timelines, can you ever know if something was the moral decision, since it's impossible to be sure of what any other action would have led to?