(May 2, 2018 at 10:48 pm)Brian37 Wrote: My point is that if there was a "one size fits all" and it was universal, it would seem to me no argument would occur among humans.
Yes! Listen to this, MK!
If we recognized a "one size fits all" morality and recognized that it was from GOD, how could we differ? There wouldn't be any room for disagreement. If there really is a universally objective morality dictated by an all-knowing deity, that's it! There would be no room for pondering or philosophizing or intellectualizing. If an all-wise deity hands down morality to us than that is that! We couldn't do any better ourselves; we could only follow God's moral code and be righteous or not follow his code and be um-righteous.
But religious leaders (even within the same sect of the same religion) cannot agree on what is really God's law. That is because if God chose to download his universal moral code, he chose a network with a seriously bad error rate. No matter what holy book you choose, there is no clear morality. It's all self-contradictory. That is exactly what one would expect if these so-called "holy books" were written by imperfect, mortal men.
If God wrote a universal moral code, it would be unambiguous and instantly recognizable by mortal men because it is the work of God. How could it be otherwise?
But instead, we are left with contradictory works, each claiming to be the true word of God. And we kill each other this disagreement.
MK, I will not make the claim that there is no objective morality. I will, however make the claim that if there is an objective morality, we don't know what it is!
Right now, we are killing each other over the argument of who has the most undistorted hotline to God. In reality, none of us have that.
Secular morality is superior because we can base it on principals we ALL agree on. Men shouldn't rape 5-year-old girls, right? We ALL agree on this so we adopt that and move forward. What else do we universally agree on? We figure that out and move forward. That's how we arrive at a generally agreed upon universal moral code. It may be imperfect (as all the works of mortal men are) but it sure beats the hell out of me and you beating each other over the head with a stick because the stories our parents told us conflict. Using clear-headed reason and logic leads to the right path. We may get it wrong sometime but we'll self-correct. Eventually, we'll get it right.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
Albert Einstein
Albert Einstein