RE: Why I'm here: a Muslim. My Philosophy in life. What is yours;Muslim?
May 19, 2018 at 7:14 pm
(This post was last modified: May 19, 2018 at 7:44 pm by WinterHold.)
(May 15, 2018 at 7:23 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Bump. Atlas, you never answered my question. Given that it is an important question in relation to your beliefs, I'm repeating it in hopes you'll answer it.
(May 10, 2018 at 1:06 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: What is wrong with supplementing our understanding of the Quran with the words of Mohammed and other contemporaries of the time? (i.e. the hadith)
Just stressing on my answer: the Hadith cannot be trusted as an authentic source; i.e it doesn't satisfy the premise of it being a heavenly revelation.
(May 16, 2018 at 2:32 am)Mathilda Wrote:(May 10, 2018 at 10:11 am)Khemikal Wrote: Because it would hurt them, not us. They need to sell it, we don;t need to buy it. I
Are you sure about that? America is used to having plentiful amounts of oil. It can no longer produce it in any great quantities but most people there still drive massive gas guzzling cars.Not to mention that you generally need to drive everywhere. This is from a European perspective anyway.
It is a very needed commodity for the U.S's insane consumption, operating the joints of a modern empire with the size of the U.S would require crazy amounts of fuel, even the 11% Khem. is speaking about would have a key role.
(May 16, 2018 at 3:05 pm)Khemikal Wrote:(May 16, 2018 at 2:32 am)Mathilda Wrote: Are you sure about that? America is used to having plentiful amounts of oil. It can no longer produce it in any great quantities but most people there still drive massive gas guzzling cars.Not to mention that you generally need to drive everywhere. This is from a European perspective anyway.I;m entirely certain of it. That's just how the math breaks down. The margins imported from the middle east are replaceable. We buy it from them because they sell it cheaper than their competitors and cheaper than we could produce it. Not because we couldn;t buy form their competitors (we're fucking rich) or that we couldn;t produce it (we have idle production).
The middle east is losing it;s economic influence long before a post oil world. Thats a part of the cause of all the unrest (and of islamic terrorism, for that matter). Though some islamists (like our buddy here) still cling to a past in which they were somehow the lifeblood of civilization in the west and could effect it...in the face of their growing irrelevance.
The ME needs to get right, quick...or they'll end up like the man who made the finest buggy whips in town.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lorenthomps...75efbe3a77
Yes, the U.S -and the whole modern world- will probably get rid of oil in the future, but for now America do need that oil.
The past you speak about is "80 years ago". And it costed generations of Arabs to live under monarchs kept in power by American military protection:
Quote:The biggest losers would be the Arab oil states grouped in the Gulf Cooperation Council, most of which are monarchies kept in power by a combination oil dollars and American military power. Despite their oil revenues, none of these countries except Saudi Arabia has the wherewithal to defend itself against military pressure from Iran if America leaves the stage -- or for that matter from Iraq, which has repeatedly laid claim to oil fields in Kuwait and other nearby states. The vacuum created by an American departure would force nations like Bahrain and Qatar to seek new military protectors, either by submitting to the influence of bigger regional powers or by reaching out to China.
That's "Forbes" saying; not me !
