RE: Why I'm here: a Muslim. My Philosophy in life. What is yours;Muslim?
May 21, 2018 at 10:34 am
(This post was last modified: May 21, 2018 at 10:37 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(May 19, 2018 at 6:02 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(May 10, 2018 at 1:20 pm)Khemikal Wrote: It;s an interesting question. The most credible supplementals are authenticated by the exact same process that produced the quran. It would seem that any notion that the hadith are fundamentally dubious would wrap up the quran as well.
I also think that it would be difficult to conceptualize or contextualize what islam was or is without all of those contemporary documents doing and being exactly that.
It's not the same.
For the Quran: you have direct speech (verses) that Mohammed himself recited and dictated on men called "Kottab al Wahee- Writers of the Revelation". Their job was to sit with Mohammed and write what he says. That is the Quran.
For the Hadith: after 100 years of Mohammed's death, some Muslims began a tradition of asking around for other things that Mohammed said. Scholars began to make libraries with the talks and rumors they heard, they wrote it down, and that is the Hadith.
They are totally different.
-Or so they say, by the exact same chain of custody through which the quran was manufactured. Casting doubt on the one casts fundamental doubt on the other...but I appreciate that you began (before this rationalizing post) by bluntly describing the reality of the matter..not that they;re demonstrably different from each other..but that you make a massive leap of faith for one and not the other.
Personally, I;d stick to that, it has the benefit of being the truth without all the unnecessary baggage. There's no shame there, and no reason to tie your scrote into knots.
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