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Would They Die for a Lie?
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RE: Would They Die for a Lie?
(December 11, 2018 at 5:26 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Drich,

What your own quotes prove is that the Empire persecuted some early Christians for political reasons and not for their religious beliefs.

In those days there wasn't the politics/religion distinction there is now. They were too closely intertwined to be separated.

Hence the problem. A movement that declared Jesus as king (Christ) was already in big trouble with the Romans; it would have been taken as another in the series of minor rebellions. A movement that declared the Temple on its way out would have got you in big trouble with the Jewish authorities. A movement which said that being Jewish didn't get you to be one of the People of God any more got you in big trouble with the ordinary Jewish people. A movement which said that people should abandon the city deities got you in big trouble with the Greek cities.

What did 'big trouble' look like? Read the NT.

Agreed that the persecution didn't officially come close to Nazi-Jew, but it happened, and much of it would have been local incidents by local thugs that never made official records.

For an impartial summary of the official evidence, the BBC is, as always, excellent:

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Would They Die for a Lie? - by YahwehIsTheWay - November 30, 2018 at 7:45 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 4, 2018 at 12:04 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by DeistPaladin - December 4, 2018 at 2:13 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Minimalist - December 4, 2018 at 12:10 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 4, 2018 at 1:17 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 4, 2018 at 1:20 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 4, 2018 at 1:25 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 4, 2018 at 1:32 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 4, 2018 at 1:50 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 4, 2018 at 2:18 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 4, 2018 at 3:09 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 4, 2018 at 5:14 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Divinity - December 4, 2018 at 2:14 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 4, 2018 at 2:17 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by GUBU - December 6, 2018 at 5:47 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by unfogged - December 6, 2018 at 8:26 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by GUBU - December 7, 2018 at 6:56 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Gwaithmir - December 6, 2018 at 9:51 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by unsapien - December 4, 2018 at 5:03 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 4, 2018 at 5:17 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 4, 2018 at 5:31 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 4, 2018 at 5:32 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 4, 2018 at 5:42 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Angrboda - December 5, 2018 at 10:57 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by unsapien - December 4, 2018 at 5:56 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 5, 2018 at 2:14 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 5, 2018 at 11:06 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Amarok - December 5, 2018 at 2:18 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 5, 2018 at 4:51 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by unsapien - December 5, 2018 at 8:06 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Rev. Rye - December 6, 2018 at 10:29 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 9, 2018 at 10:19 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 10, 2018 at 12:51 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 10, 2018 at 11:40 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 11, 2018 at 10:53 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by DeistPaladin - December 11, 2018 at 12:33 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 11, 2018 at 1:20 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by DeistPaladin - December 11, 2018 at 2:00 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by DeistPaladin - December 11, 2018 at 10:40 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Mandosa8 - December 11, 2018 at 10:13 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 11, 2018 at 5:26 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Vicki Q - December 16, 2018 at 6:00 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by DeistPaladin - December 16, 2018 at 8:33 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 16, 2018 at 8:35 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Vicki Q - December 17, 2018 at 6:15 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by DeistPaladin - December 17, 2018 at 6:42 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by GUBU - December 19, 2018 at 6:57 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 17, 2018 at 1:06 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 18, 2018 at 9:53 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 18, 2018 at 10:37 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Vicki Q - December 18, 2018 at 1:25 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 18, 2018 at 4:23 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Amarok - December 19, 2018 at 3:24 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Vicki Q - December 20, 2018 at 1:31 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 20, 2018 at 1:47 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 17, 2018 at 1:14 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 17, 2018 at 6:48 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 19, 2018 at 5:15 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 19, 2018 at 10:36 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Angrboda - December 19, 2018 at 11:01 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 19, 2018 at 12:33 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 19, 2018 at 12:42 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 19, 2018 at 11:18 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 19, 2018 at 1:20 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 19, 2018 at 9:26 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 19, 2018 at 12:58 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 19, 2018 at 2:31 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 19, 2018 at 3:59 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 20, 2018 at 10:20 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 19, 2018 at 11:57 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2018 at 11:25 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 20, 2018 at 11:33 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2018 at 11:38 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 20, 2018 at 12:54 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Bucky Ball - December 20, 2018 at 5:56 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 20, 2018 at 12:57 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 20, 2018 at 2:05 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 20, 2018 at 12:58 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 20, 2018 at 1:10 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2018 at 1:22 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Angrboda - December 20, 2018 at 2:31 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 20, 2018 at 2:53 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Angrboda - December 21, 2018 at 2:03 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 21, 2018 at 11:28 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Bucky Ball - December 21, 2018 at 12:40 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 20, 2018 at 2:33 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2018 at 2:35 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Amarok - December 20, 2018 at 10:36 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Vicki Q - December 21, 2018 at 11:20 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 20, 2018 at 5:24 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 21, 2018 at 11:11 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 21, 2018 at 9:40 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Bucky Ball - December 21, 2018 at 6:37 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Fake Messiah - December 21, 2018 at 1:04 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Bucky Ball - December 21, 2018 at 1:26 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 27, 2018 at 11:10 pm

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