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Would They Die for a Lie?
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RE: Would They Die for a Lie?
(December 19, 2018 at 1:20 pm)Drich Wrote: Trajan to Pliny
You observed proper procedure, my dear Pliny, in sifting the cases of those who had been denounced to you as Christians. For it is not possible to lay down any general rule to serve as a kind of fixed standard. They are not to be sought out; if they are denounced and proved guilty, they are to be punished, with this reservation, that whoever denies that he is a Christian and really proves it--that is, by worshiping our gods--even though he was under suspicion in the past, shall obtain pardon through repentance. But anonymously posted accusations ought to have no place in any prosecution. For this is both a dangerous kind of precedent and out of keeping with the spirit of our age.

This invalidates everything your wiki page says. Again tetery material verses primary source... Expert speculation about 2000 years ago verse a writen decree on the same subject from the time period in question. The verified written decree will always trump speculation 2000 years removed from said events.

(December 19, 2018 at 12:42 pm)Jehanne Wrote: You like to cherry-pick your "primary" sources.  If persecution of the early Christians was as widespread as you claim, why would Pliny need to "ask" for permission to do so??

READ THE F-ING LETTER!!!

HE is not asking permission He is asking is he being severe enough!!! His his methods to the standard of Rome. Dear Emperor I kill Christians for not worshiping you as you decree but I have never done this before am I doing it right here is what I am doing now... EMperor to govnor you are doing just fine. if they deny christ and worship me let them go if the persist in worshiping God.. kill them.

Retard... That is persecution. it is empire wide decree. Again granted 2nd century it got worse. but Rome was still murdering people for believing in Jesus

What am I missing?
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Would They Die for a Lie? - by YahwehIsTheWay - November 30, 2018 at 7:45 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 4, 2018 at 12:04 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by DeistPaladin - December 4, 2018 at 2:13 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Minimalist - December 4, 2018 at 12:10 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 4, 2018 at 1:17 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 4, 2018 at 1:20 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 4, 2018 at 1:25 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 4, 2018 at 1:32 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 4, 2018 at 1:50 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 4, 2018 at 2:18 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 4, 2018 at 3:09 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 4, 2018 at 5:14 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Divinity - December 4, 2018 at 2:14 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 4, 2018 at 2:17 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Pat Mustard - December 6, 2018 at 5:47 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by unfogged - December 6, 2018 at 8:26 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Pat Mustard - December 7, 2018 at 6:56 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Gwaithmir - December 6, 2018 at 9:51 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by unsapien - December 4, 2018 at 5:03 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 4, 2018 at 5:17 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 4, 2018 at 5:31 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 4, 2018 at 5:32 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 4, 2018 at 5:42 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Angrboda - December 5, 2018 at 10:57 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by unsapien - December 4, 2018 at 5:56 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 5, 2018 at 2:14 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 5, 2018 at 11:06 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Amarok - December 5, 2018 at 2:18 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 5, 2018 at 4:51 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by unsapien - December 5, 2018 at 8:06 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Rev. Rye - December 6, 2018 at 10:29 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 9, 2018 at 10:19 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 10, 2018 at 12:51 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 10, 2018 at 11:40 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 11, 2018 at 10:53 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by DeistPaladin - December 11, 2018 at 12:33 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 11, 2018 at 1:20 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by DeistPaladin - December 11, 2018 at 2:00 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by DeistPaladin - December 11, 2018 at 10:40 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Mandosa8 - December 11, 2018 at 10:13 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 11, 2018 at 5:26 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Vicki Q - December 16, 2018 at 6:00 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by DeistPaladin - December 16, 2018 at 8:33 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 16, 2018 at 8:35 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Vicki Q - December 17, 2018 at 6:15 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by DeistPaladin - December 17, 2018 at 6:42 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Pat Mustard - December 19, 2018 at 6:57 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 17, 2018 at 1:06 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 18, 2018 at 9:53 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 18, 2018 at 10:37 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Vicki Q - December 18, 2018 at 1:25 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 18, 2018 at 4:23 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Amarok - December 19, 2018 at 3:24 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Vicki Q - December 20, 2018 at 1:31 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 20, 2018 at 1:47 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 17, 2018 at 1:14 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 17, 2018 at 6:48 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 19, 2018 at 5:15 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 19, 2018 at 10:36 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Angrboda - December 19, 2018 at 11:01 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 19, 2018 at 12:33 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 19, 2018 at 12:42 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 19, 2018 at 11:18 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 19, 2018 at 1:20 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 19, 2018 at 9:26 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 19, 2018 at 12:58 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 19, 2018 at 2:31 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 19, 2018 at 3:59 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 20, 2018 at 10:20 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 19, 2018 at 11:57 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2018 at 11:25 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 20, 2018 at 11:33 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2018 at 11:38 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 20, 2018 at 12:54 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Bucky Ball - December 20, 2018 at 5:56 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 20, 2018 at 12:57 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 20, 2018 at 2:05 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 20, 2018 at 12:58 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 20, 2018 at 1:10 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2018 at 1:22 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Angrboda - December 20, 2018 at 2:31 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 20, 2018 at 2:53 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Angrboda - December 21, 2018 at 2:03 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 21, 2018 at 11:28 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Bucky Ball - December 21, 2018 at 12:40 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 20, 2018 at 2:33 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2018 at 2:35 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Amarok - December 20, 2018 at 10:36 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Vicki Q - December 21, 2018 at 11:20 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 20, 2018 at 5:24 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 21, 2018 at 11:11 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 21, 2018 at 9:40 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Bucky Ball - December 21, 2018 at 6:37 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Fake Messiah - December 21, 2018 at 1:04 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Bucky Ball - December 21, 2018 at 1:26 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 27, 2018 at 11:10 pm

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