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Would They Die for a Lie?
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RE: Would They Die for a Lie?
(December 20, 2018 at 2:35 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote:
(December 20, 2018 at 1:31 pm)Vicki Q Wrote:  You are welcome to deny the consensus view, but that doesn't alter its status as the consensus view. 

The consensus view is that christians were persecuted (the roman empire didn't exactly stay the rod, lol) ..yes, but it's also the consensus view that the picture of christian persecution as told by christians is christian folklore.  That's why the statement "the consensus view" is so facile..as it is in almost any other conversation regarding christianity and historicity.

The long and short is that "the consensus view" doesn't match the folklore or Certain Christians™ idea of what the consensus view is.  This is a common state of affairs in modern christianity.  There are mounds and mounds of the faithful who take comfort in the idea that there is some critical mass of historical information regarding their faith..but, if they knew the contents of that mass, they'd be utterly disappointed.
Considering that consensus view is the view of apologist not historians  it's worthless
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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Would They Die for a Lie? - by YahwehIsTheWay - November 30, 2018 at 7:45 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 4, 2018 at 12:04 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by DeistPaladin - December 4, 2018 at 2:13 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Minimalist - December 4, 2018 at 12:10 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 4, 2018 at 1:17 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 4, 2018 at 1:20 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 4, 2018 at 1:25 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 4, 2018 at 1:32 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 4, 2018 at 1:50 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 4, 2018 at 2:18 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 4, 2018 at 3:09 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 4, 2018 at 5:14 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Divinity - December 4, 2018 at 2:14 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 4, 2018 at 2:17 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by GUBU - December 6, 2018 at 5:47 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by unfogged - December 6, 2018 at 8:26 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by GUBU - December 7, 2018 at 6:56 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Gwaithmir - December 6, 2018 at 9:51 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by unsapien - December 4, 2018 at 5:03 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 4, 2018 at 5:17 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 4, 2018 at 5:31 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 4, 2018 at 5:32 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 4, 2018 at 5:42 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Angrboda - December 5, 2018 at 10:57 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by unsapien - December 4, 2018 at 5:56 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 5, 2018 at 2:14 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 5, 2018 at 11:06 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Amarok - December 5, 2018 at 2:18 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 5, 2018 at 4:51 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by unsapien - December 5, 2018 at 8:06 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Rev. Rye - December 6, 2018 at 10:29 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 9, 2018 at 10:19 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 10, 2018 at 12:51 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 10, 2018 at 11:40 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 11, 2018 at 10:53 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by DeistPaladin - December 11, 2018 at 12:33 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 11, 2018 at 1:20 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by DeistPaladin - December 11, 2018 at 2:00 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by DeistPaladin - December 11, 2018 at 10:40 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Mandosa8 - December 11, 2018 at 10:13 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 11, 2018 at 5:26 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Vicki Q - December 16, 2018 at 6:00 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by DeistPaladin - December 16, 2018 at 8:33 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 16, 2018 at 8:35 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Vicki Q - December 17, 2018 at 6:15 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by DeistPaladin - December 17, 2018 at 6:42 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by GUBU - December 19, 2018 at 6:57 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 17, 2018 at 1:06 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 18, 2018 at 9:53 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 18, 2018 at 10:37 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Vicki Q - December 18, 2018 at 1:25 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 18, 2018 at 4:23 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Amarok - December 19, 2018 at 3:24 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Vicki Q - December 20, 2018 at 1:31 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 20, 2018 at 1:47 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 17, 2018 at 1:14 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 17, 2018 at 6:48 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 19, 2018 at 5:15 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 19, 2018 at 10:36 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Angrboda - December 19, 2018 at 11:01 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 19, 2018 at 12:33 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 19, 2018 at 12:42 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 19, 2018 at 11:18 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 19, 2018 at 1:20 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 19, 2018 at 9:26 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 19, 2018 at 12:58 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 19, 2018 at 2:31 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 19, 2018 at 3:59 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 20, 2018 at 10:20 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 19, 2018 at 11:57 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2018 at 11:25 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 20, 2018 at 11:33 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2018 at 11:38 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 20, 2018 at 12:54 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Bucky Ball - December 20, 2018 at 5:56 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 20, 2018 at 12:57 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 20, 2018 at 2:05 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 20, 2018 at 12:58 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 20, 2018 at 1:10 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2018 at 1:22 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Angrboda - December 20, 2018 at 2:31 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 20, 2018 at 2:53 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Angrboda - December 21, 2018 at 2:03 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 21, 2018 at 11:28 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Bucky Ball - December 21, 2018 at 12:40 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 20, 2018 at 2:33 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2018 at 2:35 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Amarok - December 20, 2018 at 10:36 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Vicki Q - December 21, 2018 at 11:20 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 20, 2018 at 5:24 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Drich - December 21, 2018 at 11:11 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Jehanne - December 21, 2018 at 9:40 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Bucky Ball - December 21, 2018 at 6:37 am
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Fake Messiah - December 21, 2018 at 1:04 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by Bucky Ball - December 21, 2018 at 1:26 pm
RE: Would They Die for a Lie? - by The Grand Nudger - December 27, 2018 at 11:10 pm

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