(December 20, 2018 at 1:47 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(December 20, 2018 at 1:31 pm)Vicki Q Wrote: Er.............ilk is not an insult. It means 'the same sort of thing'.The Wemstroms: How words turn from innocent to negative
(December 20, 2018 at 2:35 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: There are mounds and mounds of the faithful who take comfort in the idea that there is some critical mass of historical information regarding their faith..but, if they knew the contents of that mass, they'd be utterly disappointed.
I half agree with this. A lot of Christians know little about things like redaction criticism or who didn't write the pseudepigrapha etc. But go below the problems with the NT as a collection of sources, and apply historical methods, and I honestly do believe it strengthens the case for Xianity immeasurably.
This is what writers like N.T. Wright and J.P. Meier are doing- proper historical process applied to NT history. When you do this, you see things in a totally different light; you understand why it makes sense to believe.
And as I said, following proper historical method, with all the different sources and types of reference in the NT, tells us that those disciples paid a heavy price for their beliefs. Whatever else might have been the case, the reality is that those disciples believed in Jesus strongly enough to pay whatever price it took.
And other thoughts of that ilk.
Have a good Xmas, everybody!