On the subject of Hell and Salvation

[fredd bear]

How certain are you of all of that. Could you be wrong?

Yes, I could be wrong. Of course, I'm in a much different position than most people, because the Lord has given me many confirmations that I'm not wrong. Most people are still searching for God; I happen to already know Him. I'm not saying that to boast, I'm merely pointing out that someone in a position of faith can't exactly be compared to someone who is still searching in terms of certainty.

But yes, I have to acknowledge the fact that I could be wrong. Faith wouldn't be called faith if it were something observable or provable.

Apologies if this has been covered:

I've always found it difficult to understand how an infinitely compassionate, infinitely just God could condemn anyone to a place of eternal torture. I won't even start on the problem of evil. 

The concept of an eternal hell is a Christian invention. It does not exist in Judaism, although the term' sheol' is used, once.

In Christianity, the concept grew, probably from the vague Roman ideas if an afterlife. This would have occurred  after Paul, who made it acceptable for gentiles s to join the club.

The response below from the Bart Ehrman blog:

"Ah, this is a great question, and as with all great questions, it does not have an easy answer!   I give a short version of the answer in my book Jesus Interrupted, in the chapter on “Who Invented Christianity,” where I discuss the “invention” of heaven and hell.   I don’t mean, of course, that anyone actually invented them, but I think the idea that such places exist were not the original ideas of Jesus and his followers, but were later developments among Christian thinkers in later times.   And since these ideas did not exist at one point among Christians, and then later became very much Christian ideas, then in that sense, SOMEBODY came up with them (or lots of somebodies), and that would involve their “invention.”"

https://ehrmanblog.org/the-invention-of-...r-members/

(there is a vast amount of information on this topic online)

OF COURSE I may be wrong. That's why I call myself  an agnostic atheist .IE I do not believe in god(s) the soul, angels, demons, an afterlife, the paranormal,  dragons, mountain trolls or fairies at the bottom of my garden, due to lack of proof.  But,I don't know, I may be wrong.

I make no claims, so have no burden of proof. That pleasure belongs to those who make any claims about god; his existence or non existence

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Note to apologists. I don't  usually try to discus anything with apologist ,because: 

Basic problem; a belief in God. I am absolutely ready to join deists in their beliefs-- the instant they prove the existence of God.

It it is my perception that apologists are immune to facts or reason. That religious belief is about faith (belief in things unseen) rather than science or reason .I'm unable to accept that

Luther said reason is the enemy of belief. 


       “Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but more frequently than not struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God.”

― Martin Luther