RE: Do you wish there's a god?
April 9, 2019 at 2:38 pm
(This post was last modified: April 9, 2019 at 2:49 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(April 9, 2019 at 2:17 pm)Acrobat Wrote:You might imagine that everyone else is just as shitty as you are..but that's more a way of making yourself feel better than an accurate representation of humanity, and presents no cogent criticism of any moral system.
(April 9, 2019 at 2:16 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Moot point, really, since you've bullshitted us for pages and can't muster up a single shred of credible honesty about your own beliefs.
Either you're the person you described in argumentation, and that would be a shitty person..or you're not..just a liar, and that would also be a shitty person. Take your pick.
No it's not a moot point. No, that describes my views in relationship to your moral beliefs. But I just indicated my beliefs, and didn't say anything about my actions.
I also don't see myself as unique, but as much an everyman, with nothing particular about my environment or moral development distinct from most people in the world, so if I constitute as a shitty person, it's unlikely to be a unique judgement, but one that can be leveled at humanity as a whole, as a result of shared environments and biological histories.
I don't even get the point of this new diversion. You failed to make the case for god belief. Explicitly describing yourself as a complete douche, as though this had anything to say on moral authority...when you had previously argued to the contrary yourself...was superfluous.
For all this meaningless and irrelevant shit about inconsistency in others and some non-existent contradiction between atheism and realism, you've expressed meaningful and relevant inconsistencies in your own beliefs, beliefs which you are cagey and duplicitous about. Yours has been a running example in how not to offer a challenging or sophisticated theology.
(April 9, 2019 at 2:37 pm)Acrobat Wrote:(April 9, 2019 at 2:10 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: You're only telling us about the quality of the theists you know. Unsuprising to me, if they're of a similar quality as yourself.
Your definition remains what it always was. A poor attempt to frame a doomed argument. The belief you described can be held and rejected by atheists or theists alike, and is not what the term god refers to, nor is it what the term atheism refers to.
I define gods as amoral time traveling toasters. Amoral time traveling toasters don't exist, therefore gods aren't real and your beliefs are inconsistent with moral reality. QED...right?
Lol how are you an atheists going to tell me what the term god refers to? Or that my definition isn’t a description of a god belief?
What percentage of theists, let say Christians would disagree that all men can know of God, is what God reveals to them? That man can know nothing more of God than his revelation?
I’m pointing out that hardly any Christian, fundie, or otherwise would disagree with this, it’s just that you fail to understand basic theistic beliefs like this.
Someone clearly has to point it out to you...because you don't have the first clue wtf you're talking about, lol?
You believe that life has meaning. Well..welcome to the club? That doesn't make you a theist, and that's not the thing that atheism refers to.
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