RE: New Gun Regulations In The US Would Be Really, Really Stupid
April 14, 2019 at 7:30 am
(This post was last modified: April 14, 2019 at 7:34 am by onlinebiker.)
(April 14, 2019 at 6:10 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:(April 14, 2019 at 12:45 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Mom isn' t getting " off the hook".
She' s got to live with that shit forever.
No, nobody lives "forever". Nit picking there son.
And what about her kid, the one who's going to have to live with having killed his sister? Why is the kid getting a worse "punishment", than the mother - since he's going to have to live with this (as well as - most likely - resulting disorders, like PTSD and impaired hearing) arguably longer? Unless - of course - he blows his brains out at some point, because of psychological complications stemming from this childhood trauma.
I'm not saying the mother has to go to prison for the rest of her life, but how come her guilt is enough of a punishment? What if a parent through negligence allows his/her child to fatally overdose on prescription pills, or something - would living with that also be enough?
Show me a case where the parents of a kid OD' D or drank poison and died - went to jail. Never seen one of those.
(April 14, 2019 at 12:45 am)onlinebiker Wrote: I suppose if she was a psychopath - then jail would be appropriate.
So, if she's mentally ill - she should be locked up for this, but if she's not - it's "cool"? Sounds logical...
(April 14, 2019 at 12:45 am)onlinebiker Wrote: She should lose her guns - and the right to own them.
Wait... What? She's supposed to be deprived of the right to protect her home and her remaining children from all the dangers supposedly awaiting unarmed Americans, like burglars, rapists, drug cartels, governments, and - I don't know - bears? Surely, you'd be leaving that family for dead...
Rights can be taken away by a court of law as punishment - even your right to suck air.
(April 14, 2019 at 12:45 am)onlinebiker Wrote: As far as " deterance to others" - do you really think most people would find jail more of a deterance than their child dying of a gunshot? Most mothers I know would willingly do jail time to prevent such a thing. Or, at least I would like to think they would.
Am I wrong?
Of course you are, though not necessarily about mothers' preferences regarding their children's deaths and jail time.
What "deterrent to others" - and generally gun control - is supposed to accomplish is to change the perception of gun ownership, from being a cool, fun, everyday thing that every f*ckwit is born entitled to - to a huge responsibility and a privilege. Americans treat guns like toys - that's the root of the problem.
You don' t understand the difference between rights and priviledge. You fail High School Civics class.
Sure - the gun deaths aren't going to cause US population to significantly decrease. They're statistically not very significant. But a generation after generation of kids growing up bombarded with the news about kids getting murdered in schools and such - that's bound to have psychological implications on a national (perhaps global) scale. Because children don't understand statistics. From what I remember - growing up is stressful enough, even without the possibility of being brutally killed by another child. And then dumb old f*cks are shocked, that "kids these days" prefer to stay in their bedrooms on their phones...
Wait a few more years. Another generation of young people paranoid about gun-death just might tip the scale in favor of gun control measures - possibly much more drastic, than what could be done now, if gun owners weren't acting like a bunch of stubborn morons, who love their weapons more than their children.
Yeah, kids might believe the bullshit the likes of the Brady Bunch Campaign spew.
Hell - some of them believe the Pope.
There' s always gullible ones.
(April 14, 2019 at 1:08 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: We don't. If you really sit back and consider how many guns there are in the us, the thing that would strike you is how -low- our gun crime, injury, and death stats are compared to the number of guns per cap and the same anywhere else.
When it happens, and it does happen, we just don't enforce our laws. Whatever preventative benefit those laws have to coerce better behavior among law abiding people ( the overwhelming majority of gun owners), better than our already good behavior all things considered, just isn't going to work until we do.
I get it, don't get me wrong. When a parent loses a kid we think "what could we do to them that's worse than that" - still. I know, they're bawling, it's the worst thing that could ever happen to them..and it's going to be a bad look...it certainly wont help anyone running for office....but we have to charge them with the crime(s) they committed.
Are you going to jail everyone who attempts suicide?
It' s against the law in most states and theoretically carries a jail sentence.
Some laws don' t get enforced because they' re outdated, unconstitutional or just dumb.